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Glenn Beck whups Obama

Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:30 AM EDT
politics, obama, beck
By Madison From NY
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After reading the MSNBC pro Obama spin in today's article, "Obama adviser Jones resigns in controversy," I have reached the sorry conclusion that, with a few exceptions like Glenn Beck, honest, investigative reporting is dead.

I spite of the blatent media bias, Beck demonstrated that facts eventually beat lies, cover ups, spin and personal attacks. Good investigative reporting is finally exposing and bringing down Obama and his corrupt administration.

That is why Obama supporters cannot stand Beck and Palin. They are afraid of the truth as demonstrated in the resignation of Jones. The results of Beck's honest investigative reporting? Beck - 1; Obama - 0.

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Madison From NY

AM radio, FOX and WSJ ratings are off the charts because US citizens have learned that these organizations investigate and report the facts. This permits people to make up their own minds. People do not want their minds made up by main stream media misstatements, omissions and spin.

Do AM radio, FOX and WSJ report opinion? Sure. But along with the facts. In contrast, the main stream media reports opinion pieces as objective journalism. LOL

  • 69 votes
#1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:52 AM EDT
robynlewisTX.

This is precisely the reason that obama continues to whine about about Fox news. They hold him accountable by holding his feet to the fire and he's not use to anyone questioning him about his actions.

Go Glenn Go!!

  • 58 votes
#1.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:02 PM EDT
economics101

You can't confuse disagreement with someones ideologyu with dishonesty. Beck is fine if you agree with him. Personally I find him to be a vulgar moron who incite hatred and controversy since it creates ratings ... which makes him a good capitalist I guess, but not much of a journalist.

  • 72 votes
#1.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:07 PM EDT
Sol-BadguyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

with a few exceptions like Glenn Beck, honest, investigative reporting is dead.

I just threw up in my mouth.

  • 84 votes
#1.3 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:08 PM EDT
vol fan in chatt, tnExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

good, don't swallow. Enjoy it awhile while it swirls around in your mouth. I am so sick of that phrase.

  • 42 votes
#1.4 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:11 PM EDT
Sol-BadguyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I just threw up in my mouth.

I am so sick of that phrase.

That's why I stopped watching FoxNews Entertainment. It makes investigative journalism look like wiffle-ball. Sure, technically it's still news, just like wiffle-ball is technically still a degenerate form of baseball. And sure, some people who don't like digesting intellectual assertions will prefer FoxNews, just like some people (namely toddlers) enjoy wiffle-ball because it's much easier and less threatening. But wiffle-ball is not baseball, and FoxNews is not real news. Because no matter how you justify it, any sport featuring a ball that spins and curves like a gyroball hopped up on X is not a sport. And any news station that spins news and blatantly ignores facts like FoxNews does is not a true news station. If you do not censor reports to your liking as a news station, that makes you liberal. Journalism is liberal by nature. Of course news is liberal. Duh. Get over yourselves. Fox News is just ignorant liberalism, that's all.

  • 58 votes
#1.5 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:17 PM EDT
Dylan923

I have reached the sorry conclusion that, with a few exceptions like Glenn Beck, honest, investigative reporting is dead.

Glenn Beck is no more of an investigative journalist than a prostitute trying to be a nun. Glenn Beck is a COMMENTATOR, a personality. He reads what's given him, plain and simple.

  • 87 votes
#1.6 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:19 PM EDT
Sol-BadguyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Glenn Beck is no more of an investigative journalist than a prostitute trying to be a nun.

Here's the difference, though. Glenn Beck is a journalistic prostitute dressed up as a nun. Some people are into the kinky stuff like that.

  • 55 votes
#1.7 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:26 PM EDT
Madison From NY

I agree that Beck is a commentator, expresses sensationalist opinions and makes no apologies about it. But he also has been responsible for investigating and reporting important facts ignored by the mainstream media. It was the facts, not the sensationalism, that caused the resignation announced today.

  • 56 votes
#1.8 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:32 PM EDT
Greeneyes2u

Madison,
While Glenn Beck is a commentator he's also been the best investigative reporter possilbe on this Van Jones thing. While all the other media was ignoring it, Beck was digging for the facts and he exposed this Communist for what he is. Good riddance to Van Jones.

  • 51 votes
#1.9 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:38 PM EDT
TheEarthIsNotMyMother

libs weren't complaining about beck when he was "spewing" "crap" about GWB....

  • 48 votes
#1.10 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:39 PM EDT
Dylan923

While Glenn Beck is a commentator he's also been the best investigative reporter possilbe on this Van Jones thing. While all the other media was ignoring it, Beck was digging for the facts and he exposed this Communist for what he is.

Do you have any proof to offer that it was actually BECK and not others that dug up the facts used in this exposing of Van Jones? Can you post this proof that Beck does anything more than prep for his show by reviewing what's given him and then sitting down with the producers to has out what gets on and what doesn't? I'd really love to see the proof you have to validate this statement. Glenn Beck is no investigative journalist, he's a personality, period, and he admitted as much when he was on The View.

Please prove to me Glenn Beck did all the leg work for the Van Jones story.

  • 25 votes
#1.11 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:43 PM EDT
Brandon-801865

"Facts" like we find in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland?

The mercury-poisoned Mad Hatter made more sense than Republicans.

  • 42 votes
#1.12 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:47 PM EDT
Greeneyes2u

Dylan,

Do you have any proof to offer that it was actually BECK and not others that dug up the facts used in this exposing of Van Jones?

I don't have to prove anything to you. It's my opinion. Prove Beck didn't do the investigative reporting on Van Jones.

Fact is, Jones resigned!

  • 29 votes
#1.13 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:56 PM EDT
Dylan923

I don't have to prove anything to you. It's my opinion.

You're right, and your opinion is wrong. But when you make a statement without stating in that statement that it's opinion and then arrogantly state you don't have to prove anything, it completely invalidates what you say. Here's your statement:

While Glenn Beck is a commentator he's also been the best investigative reporter possilbe on this Van Jones thing. While all the other media was ignoring it, Beck was digging for the facts and he exposed this Communist for what he is.

Now you show me where in that statement that anyone can ascertain it's an opinion and not written as fact..............................

Glenn Beck is not an investigative journalist period. This is not even arguable, he said it himself on national television. He's a radio talk show host turned television commentator, nothing more and nothing less.

As for me proving Beck didn't do the work, typical cop-out reply for someone making absurd statements with nothing to back them up. You p[eople always try this one, you get asked to prove or validate a statement and you try to twist it wround by asking the person challenging you to disprove the statement. NOT MY JOB, I didn't make the statment, I asked you to prove yours and you can't.

Proving Beck didn't do the work is as easy as doing a little research, try it sometime, it might help your case when you make ridiculous statements like the one you made above.

  • 34 votes
#1.14 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:01 PM EDT
Greeneyes2u

Go cry on somebody else's shoulder. Last time I looked it was a free country and I have freedom of speech. I still stand I don't have to prove my opinion to you. country. Maybe you do this for a living, but I don't.

  • 29 votes
#1.15 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:03 PM EDT
Dylan923

Go cry on somebody else's shoulder. Last time I looked it was a free country and I have freedom of speech.

I'm not crying, I'm calling you on a bull@!$%# statement you made that you have no ability to validate. And while you have freedom of speech, sometime you should try to use the word "TRUTH" when making that speech, because I can tell you this: you're statement that Glenn Beck is the best investigative journalist possible on the Van Jones thing is not only blatently false, it shows your complete ignorance of the journalistic field and media in general. You simply don't know how it works and it might do you well to do a little research before you make uninformed statements like the one you made that you got called on.

  • 36 votes
#1.16 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:08 PM EDT
economics101

Its scary really how divided this country really is .... Beck is an entertainer, frankly its hard to beleive someone with the connections to get on TV actually believes what he says.

  • 25 votes
#1.17 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:10 PM EDT
Madison From NY

Economics,

It was Beck's facts about Jones that won the day.

Did you watch the shows?

  • 34 votes
#1.18 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:28 PM EDT
vol fan in chatt, tn

it really doesn't matter who did what, does it? He's gone, let's rejoice for pity sake!

  • 27 votes
#1.19 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:29 PM EDT
Rickeroo

It doesn't matter what Beck is or isn't.

He played audio and video of Van Jones. He points out what Lloyd and Sunstein have written.

I didn't listen to "Beck". I listened to what the czars have said and written. I don't like it. The country doesn't like it.

  • 31 votes
#1.20 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:31 PM EDT
Atsidi

You have to watch Beck for awhile to get where he is coming from. If you base your opinion on a few minutes or someone else's opinion, you will be off the mark. What should scare a lot of Beck opponents is the thought of "what if he is correct?"

  • 16 votes
#1.21 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:37 PM EDT
J. W. Welch

So, AM radio, fox and the WSJ aren't part of the so called msm?

Oh, please!

  • 9 votes
#1.22 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:51 PM EDT
Mista cookin mama

This is the truth???? This is hard hitting investigative reporting?? This is a station that sued to tell the american public lies?? This is what you are holding up to be the standard by which all others should go by??

http://whatsthetruth52.newsvine.com/_news/2009/06/10/2917379-news-hounds-jon-stewart-mocks-hannitys-ridiculous-claim-that-obama-gave-911-sympathizers-a-voice-on-the-world-stage

  • 17 votes
#1.23 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:54 PM EDT
Dylan923

So, AM radio, fox and the WSJ aren't part of the so called msm?

You can't lump the term AM RADIO in there like that, much too much of a generalization. Cite specific AM stations, but to say generally "AM RADIO" is not accurate

  • 9 votes
#1.24 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:55 PM EDT
Madison From NY

Rickeroo,

Agree re Beck and true about any investigative reporter-commentator. Once we hear about seemingly important facts we can investigate further and come to our own conclusions.

Beck did a public service by helping to publicize the facts about Jones and the other czars.

  • 23 votes
#1.25 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:01 PM EDT
J. W. Welch

Dylan

It's no more inaccurate a generalization than Madison's "lumping" AM radio in with fox and the WSJ when she refers to its' ratings to be "off the charts."

  • 1 vote
#1.26 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:36 PM EDT
Schroedingers Cat

..and then you woke up! Right Glenn won something or got a fact straight!? Yeah RIGHT! and I'm Donald Frakkin Trump! What a load of HorseFeathers! I can't wait till this get's torn to shreds like everything else that comes from his mouth! You will be the one egg on your face!....Again!...Join us here in the REAL world Madison!

  • 21 votes
#1.27 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:13 PM EDT
DARKESTDONNIE

I can't wait till this get's torn to shreds like everything else that comes from his mouth!

What torn to shreds? That Van was and is a racist or that he is/was a communist and the fact that he is a whack-job truther? He (Van) has not denied any of it, other than some lame "I didn't know what I signed" except that the truthers called him and verified that he signed it!

Is there something else that is going to get torn (other than 0bama's credibility for hiring this idiot)?

  • 25 votes
#1.28 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:01 PM EDT
DARKESTDONNIE

Do not forget, John Holdren (Science Czar) is as bad or worse! He has written about "Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens."

He is every bit a whack-Job as Van Jones if not more! He co-wrote a book in 1977 called "ECOSCIENCE" And here are a few of the highlights.

  • Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
  • The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
  • Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
  • People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
  • A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.

I know that Van was a whack-job (and so does 0bama, now) but Holdren is dangerous and it needs to be made clear what he believes and does 0bama agree with him!

  • 25 votes
#1.29 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:04 PM EDT
Ms Lovelee

What facts??? I have not heard facts from any of these talk show hosts. I hear conspiracy theories and rhetoric. That must be way FOX is losing all their advertisers because of all that truth they are spreading. Be sure to get ready for the Alien invasion too...

  • 17 votes
#1.30 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:11 PM EDT
Evil 1

Ms Lovelee:

Maybe Beck has lost some advertisers but Fox News is beating all other news media in the ratings so it seems someone believes them, in fact a majority believes them! Take a look at the ratings from August 31, 2009 through September 3, 2009 and the primetime results for August 9, 2009. Oh and before anyone on the left cries it, I already know, you can't believe these results for whatever reason you fabricate or just due to the fact that they do not coincide with your liberal left rhetoric.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

  • 12 votes
#1.31 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:24 PM EDT
Lola-984242

The results of Beck's honest investigative reporting?

Glenn Beck is not a journalist! He himself says he's a commentator. See link with video, he admits to it at 4 minutes in;

http://www.politicususa.com/en/Glenn-Bec...

Beck said that he is not a journalist. He is a commentator on life.

Beck got called out on his lie, and Barbara Walters said, “You are an investigative reporter.” Beck said, “No, I am not.” She said, “You are a reporter.” Beck said, “No, I am not.” She asked, “So, you check no facts at all?” Beck said, “No, I am a commentator. I commentate on life.” Barbara Walters then asked Beck numerous times if he checks his facts, and he wouldn’t answer her question.

  • 22 votes
#1.32 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:36 PM EDT
oneforall

So Glen Beck is the media wizard, huh? Put the Naked News on cable opposite Beck and watch what happens to his ratings.

  • 12 votes
#1.33 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 6:07 PM EDT
Krankee

Glennifer is hilarious. He's a great actor. If you think he's more than that you're delusional.

Glenn Beck is an example of what happens when you give someone a microphone who barely got a high school education.

  • 17 votes
#1.34 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 6:46 PM EDT
buttzie

I keep rubbing my eyes and reading the article again. Twice in fact. It kept saying the same thing both times. I guess my eyesight is going, because no one can possibly think what I thought I just read. Unless...it could be satire.

  • 11 votes
#1.35 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:22 PM EDT
JERRY COLEMAN

Madison From NY

AM radio, FOX and WSJ ratings are off the charts because US citizens have learned that these organizations investigate and report the facts. This permits people to make up their own minds. People do not want their minds made up by main stream media misstatements, omissions and spin.

Do AM radio, FOX and WSJ report opinion? Sure. But along withthe facts. In contrast, the main stream media reports opinion pieces as objective journalism. LOL

Madison From NY---- We all have minds and some of us can think, the conservative talk shows give the message their corporate sponsors want them to give and we the public stay at odds with each other, now if you think you have a voice in anything that is going in America you are wrong, the 3% who have the wealth control your congress person and your senator so they control the country, they have put labels on the country to divide the people so they can't see what they are doing to the country, i want you to think for just one moment? we don't make anything in this country anymore we consume and those 3% who have the wealth have taking care of that, if those 3% with the wealth and are patriot's they would have taken less profits and stayed in America but that was not what they did, they packed up and move to other countries so their profits could get bigger and the poor gets poorer, and they do that all with the blessing of the government that is suppose to be for the people, now Mr Beck may have won for those who sponsor him but you lose, the conservative talk radio is crying their heart out about free speech for those corporation who sponsor them and your voice is still silent, when the president says this is the time for Americans to take back the country this is the time, Americans have been pawns in the hands of the wealth for as long as i can remember and this is the time for us to become true Americans which i agree with you for us to rise up and be heard, you talk about fox rating been off the chart but you can't see why, all day and every day they are degrading the president while the world watch and see how we are destroying ourselves because the color of the president skin.

  • 7 votes
#1.36 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:25 PM EDT
tom sevigny

Hey Jerry Coleman,

Who got the most contirbutions from Goldman Sachs in the 2008 campaign? $850,000 to Barack Obama. Over $4 million to the Democrats. Which candidate pledged to have no lobbiests in his administration? Yes, it was Barack Obama. Tim Geithner's second in charge presently came over from Goldman Sachs. There are around 12 or 13 lobbiests currently in Obama's cabinet and czar lineup.

You do know that Goldman Sachs is probably the biggest influence in the seculative oil trades that continues to drive up the cost of our heating oil and gas for our autos don't you? This is despite low demand and oversupply. You want to talk about corporate sponsorship and the media? The mainstream media has done nothing but write hagiographic editorials and pieces about candidate and now President Obama for a year and a half.

And if the President is going to take back the country as you claim, who the hell is going to take it back away from him and give it back to the people who built it and support it?

  • 21 votes
#1.37 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:41 PM EDT
Nan-813417

libs weren't complaining about beck when he was "spewing" "crap" about GWB....

I beg to differ. Fell on deaf ears to the puritinesque locksteppers anyway.

  • 7 votes
#1.38 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 9:26 PM EDT
Just Neli

Beck's Brown-shirts ride again! The next thing you all should do is to get NYC to obliterate the nasty commie pinko bas reliefs in the lobbies of Rockefeller Center.

Then you can herd all the lefties into the graveyards of empty FEMA trailers (They are already fenced.), eliminate science from the public schools, and organize weekly marches on the main drags of your home towns. (Brown armbands will do until you get your uniforms.)

I'm so proud. Not.

  • 8 votes
#1.39 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 10:11 PM EDT
CCdesign

Glenn Beck whups Obama

Beck did no such thing. Obama did this himself with a combination of not proper vetting and arrogance to think no one else would.

  • 7 votes
#1.40 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 10:11 PM EDT
DonkeyRidder

I just threw up in my mouth.

We've been through this. By definition, unless you have a hole in the side of your neck, throwing up is always into your mouth. Still smarter than me?

  • 1 vote
#1.41 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:03 PM EDT
Sol-Badguy

Hey, DonkeyRider, when someone says "I just threw up in my mouth" that implies that they gagged and that vomit came from the depths of their stomach, but said vomit was not launched from their mouth. The key is the preposition "in". If I say "I just threw up", that implies projectile vomiting, that the reaction to a comment was so repulsive as to warrant full-fledged uncontrollable chunk-blowing. However, if I say "I just threw up IN MY MOUTH", that implies that the desire to projectile vomit was there, and the potential for said projectile vomiting existed, but one was able to suppress said vomit from exiting the oral cavity.

Still smarter than me?

Absolutely.

  • 10 votes
#1.42 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:19 PM EDT
PalmettoArmadillo

I wonder if those who are defending Van Jones actually agree with his brand of politics, or more to the point, know what his brand of politics is, or know anything about the man, or have ever heard anything he has said or written, or are they just instinctively defending someone who was appointed by the president. Are there truly that many Van Jones fans on newsvine?

  • 6 votes
#1.43 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:27 PM EDT
DonkeyRidder

You are describing reflux. You just refluxed in your mouth. You can still talk just fine even when refluxing since you use another hole to talk.

What did you do with the "vomit"? Swallow it? You ate vomit?

    #1.44 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:45 PM EDT
    Positive

    libs weren't complaining about beck when he was "spewing" "crap" about GWB....

    Here's the thing. I don't think liberal people really care what someone as tacky as this guy has to say about anything--ever. This guy, Rush, Coulter--they are just nasty, hate-filled people who enjoy twisting things for profit and I wouldn't spend one minute of my day with someone like that either in person or through media.

    • 6 votes
    #1.45 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:49 PM EDT
    Sol-Badguy

    What did you do with the "vomit"? Swallow it? You ate vomit?

    Yes, I have to do that every so often when reading the responses on newsvine, can't get Southwest Chicken Sandwich all over my new laptop XD

    • 6 votes
    #1.46 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:49 PM EDT
    Bob-725866

    Look Sol I realize you are a kid but you are "playing" with adults here, could you knock it off with the vomit? What's next buggers, farts and, burps?

    • 2 votes
    #1.47 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 12:34 AM EDT
    Beverly H

    The problem is the left has been drinking the obama poison and just can't accept the truth of a good investigative report, they like the MSNBC team are so far up Obama's butt they wouldn't know the truth until it bites them in the butt, just like it did with VJ"s resignation, we just need to go after them one by one until the job is done. America won't tolerate their communism, their anti-American,and anti-white rhetoric.

    Hooray for Glenn Beck "The Truth CZAR"

    • 10 votes
    #1.48 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 12:34 AM EDT
    blaze1024

    Prove Beck didn't do the investigative reporting on Van Jones.

    Okay If Glenn Beck's fanatical worshipers are going to use twisted circular logic to try and add credibility where no credibility exists. Then lets apply your own twisted logic to Beck himself. There seems to be a bit of evidence pointing to the fact that Glen Beck might have raped and killed a young Girl you prove that Glenn Beck didn't do it.

    • 5 votes
    #1.49 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 12:42 AM EDT
    redsfan

    Van Jones was not "exposed". He has never hidden his past or tried to be anything other than what he is. From everything I've read about him, he sounds like a great guy...sure he had a "radical" period in his life...hopefully everyone who cares about the world has...and if calling Republicans "a**holes" means he needs to resign...then why didn't Cheney resign when he told a congressman to go "f*** himself"???

    Van Jones will be far more effective in his fight for the environment and for the American people from outside the White House then he every could have been inside the political mainstream. I look forward to reading about his good work in the future.

    • 9 votes
    #1.50 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 12:50 AM EDT
    jimi

    I agree that Beck is a commentator, expresses sensationalist opinions and makes no apologies about it. But he also has been responsible for investigating and reporting important facts ignored by the mainstream media. It was the facts, not the sensationalism, that caused the resignation announced today.

    Here's a little tip: Glenn Beck is the mainstream media. He is on one of the largest networks on TV that purport to give news broadcasts, he is not some small time blogger that is outside the system, so stop trying to be paint him as such.

    • 4 votes
    #1.51 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 12:52 AM EDT
    duncancl

    The solution to all of Obama's problems...

    The president's problem is not with Van Jones, Healthcare, War in Afghanistan, Taxes, Education, Green Jobs, or the National Debt! Preident Obama's problem is creating jobs in the United States of America. That is it. It is that simple. If President Obama would start creating jobs and instilling confidence in our economy by putting people back to work then he could pass just about any law, appoint any person and do just about whatever he wants to do. Democrats have a huge majority in every area of government except for the Supreme Court. President Obama cannot get his own party on board with him.

    If jobs are created then people are happy. They are making money and supporting their families. They can afford healthcare. They can send their children to college. They can go on vacations. They have money, security and dignity. We don't have to have Green Jobs. We need Red, White, and Blue Jobs!

    Creating jobs would instill confidence in the President which currently is not very high. Creating jobs would bring more money into the system as people are paying federal income taxes and the government would be spending less money on unemployment, healthcare for the uninsured and other entitlements.We wouldn't need to borrow money from China to bail everyone out.

    Creating jobs won't silence the pundits and the pundits should never be silenced. We should always have someone looking over our shoulders. The press is already too much in bed with Obama that it is pathetic. However by creating jobs Obama could win the hearts and minds of the public like he did during his campaign. This means that Foxnews would probably have much fewer listeners because people wouldn't care about things so much as long as they were working. I know this is kind of scary but it is true.

    I am surprised that Obama hasn't figured this out yet. It is as if he doesn't want to create American jobs. We know how to create jobs. It is quite simple really. However, in order for Obama to create jobs then he would have to promote business in America. He would have to promote Capitalism. I am not sure if he would be willing to trade that for everything else. It would be the smallest of compromises ever. A simple loss for a huge gain. He would have to cut taxes or give financial incentives to small businesses and big business but think of the political capital he would have. He could pass ANY law.

    What is so bad about "Cutting taxes for the Rich?"

    Well the rich get richer and the middle class gets jobs. The poor get... well the poor stay poor. But I haven't seen a plan where the poor become rich. The poor will always be poor in most aspects because of the poor's need for government entitlements. It is not their fault. They do not know any better. Most poor have been poor all of their life and they see how their parents and uncles and aunts have used the system to just get by. The cure for poverty is education not politics. Obama's plan is not working. Everyone is just getting poorer except for the Chinese. But think about it... If Obama would give small businesses across the USA an incentive to hire people then millions of jobs would be created. Yeah he would get less taxes from the employers but who cares? The government would get 100 times that back in payroll taxes from the people working. Not to mention the billions we save on unemployment entitlements.

    If people have jobs then people are happy. If people are happy then just about ANY President can pass just about any law and thus bring about they change that he or she wants. I am not condoning any issue or law. I am just stating my opinion which I think a lot of people, Democrats and Republicans can agree on.

    • 6 votes
    #1.52 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 1:17 AM EDT
    Robert Blevins - AB of Seattle

    Van Jones isn't the first guy appointed to an advisory post by a U.S. President that was found not suitable for the job, and he won't be the last.

    In fact, every single President since George Washington has made poor choices occasionally on appointments. Van Jones was one.

    As a lifelong Democrat, I have to agree with his resignation. However, life goes on, and someone else (probably much more thoroughly vetted) will get the post and advise Obama on green jobs. The Administration will continue to move forward.

    A couple of points about Van Jones. It's been discovered that he held a rather strange view about 911. From Bloomberg:

    'In 2004, he signed a petition asking for investigations into whether high-level officials allowed the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to happen.'

    Yeah, I could see why this would generate a call for his resignation. I have no problem with that. However...Glenn Beck was the WRONG GUY to make the call.

    Here's a bit more from the Bloomberg piece:

    'They also focused on his affiliation with ColorofChange.org, a group he co-founded in 2005 that is leading an advertising boycott against Fox News Channel host Glenn Beck.'

    You can see that Beck obviously had an axe to grind here. He should have stepped aside and let someone else do the story, since he could hardly be expected to be objective.

    I wouldn't worry too much about the whole thing. Obama will find someone else for the job and business at the White House will go on. In a month, you won't even remember who Van Jones was.

    • 5 votes
    #1.53 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 1:50 AM EDT
    Robert Bartholomew

    And you are honestly OK with the fabulous "objective, investigative reporting" done by Beck of "commie" artwork on the GE building in New York?!

    • 10 votes
    #1.54 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 1:53 AM EDT
    veegee-789203

    Liberals are going thru the same denial that the conservatives did over Bush, OUR guy is perfect, the "media" hates him and all he stands for blah blah blah blah...guess now the "liberals" know what it felt like to the conservatives a couple years ago.

    As far as Beck goes, love him or hate him, HE was right about this clown, there is NO room for a guy like that in high gov't levels with his ability to get the Prez ear! Jones was one of the worst racists, ala at a Sharpton level but much more nasty and scarey. As far as those who suggest Beck is just spouting what he is told to spout, hey, get real, there is NO honesty at all from anyone at MSNBC, and yet that doesn't seem to bother you! They are just spouting the company (ie GE their owner and master) tells them to spout! GE is fast becoming the "halliburton" of the Obama administration! Where are the liberal screams of anger at the inside track GE seems to have with Obama? Do you really think the anchors and commentators at MSNBC are so stupid they could not also see those racist, communist rants from Jones? These are stories that ALL of the news channels, broadcast or cable, should be reporting on, not just one lone commentator on FOX news!

    Now, lets pay attention to what Beck is saying about ACORN and its influence on the Obama administration!!!!

    • 14 votes
    #1.55 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 2:21 AM EDT
    Therese Nelson

    Dear Madison,

    You are Right!

    Glenn Beck was the first to put out the news on Van Jones.

    God Bless,

    T

    • 10 votes
    #1.56 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 3:54 AM EDT
    Robert Blevins - AB of Seattle

    The author of this article says, in part:

    'Good investigative reporting is finally exposing and bringing down Obama and his corrupt administration...'

    'Bringing down?'

    The President serves until his term is complete, or he dies in office, or is impeached.

    To suggest 'bringing down' is very likely against Federal law. Check your statutes. You cannot advocate any overthrow of the US Government, which is basically what you are doing in a roundabout sort of way.

    'Corrupt administration' you say.

    You are saying here that members of the Obama administration are engaged in illegal activity, as that is the definition of 'corrupt'.

    Unless you are prepared to offer proof of such criminal activity, I suggest you amend that statement.

    • 11 votes
    #1.57 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 4:05 AM EDT
    PanhandleMike

    I'm not crying

    I call BS on that statement.

    • 1 vote
    #1.58 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 5:54 AM EDT
    EllieP

    Robert Blevins, not sure about your sequence of events re: the CoC boycott. And, it was a blogger who "broke" the Van Jones story. Beck picked it up and ran with it the way other media should have done.

    I agree, he's just begun to fight. There is a stench emanating from this WH that has been ignored by the media since the primaries last year. Time to clear the air and root out the rot. If it takes a Glenn Beck to do it b/c the rest of the media has stars in its eyes, then so be it.

    • 14 votes
    #1.59 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 6:50 AM EDT
    bluecollarbytes

    Beck "smeared" Van Jones with Van Jones. It's similar to "smearing" Obama with Obama...or tainting terrorist Willy Ayers with Willy Ayers-acts. In bed with these is the media which is into political kinkiness. What other administration would endorse domestic enemies? When has the media gone out of its way to ignore the essence of a president through examination of his appointees, while simultaneously offering glowing stories of media-approved redemption for the culprits?

    Glen Beck is one guy. He didn't start the fire. He stoked it, and the fire is starting to clean away Obama's underbrush, causing folks to look up at Obama's forest.

    • 12 votes
    #1.60 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 8:08 AM EDT
    MyOpIA

    Beck is an entertainer, frankly its hard to beleive someone with the connections to get on TV actually believes what he says

    And that is different than Obama, how?

    • 4 votes
    #1.61 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 8:17 AM EDT
    weneeddarwin

    "AM radio, WSJ, and Fox News doing honest reporting." Yeah those organizations have really, really been honest during Obama's campaign and time in office. All three groups have done reporting on BHO not being an American citizen. All three have reported on FEMA concentration camps, weapons bans, death panels, death books, socialist take overs, and the brainwashing of our children. Now ALL of you reading this have Internet access, hence you have access to the last 8000 years of human history at your fingertips. Please provide one iota of independent evidence that ANY of this true. Hell look at the pure amount of independent investigation that all of these things are FALSE!! Oh one other thing all of these "honest people" have done. Remember how they "proved" Obama was a racist with the "my mothers culture" quote.

    Now that "quote" was from Obama's book. People quoted that line and the left was left with egg on their faces. Right up until people read the book and the line was not in the book. That quote came from the American Conservative book review. That was a lie and a very obvious one that they perpetrated on their viewers or listeners.

    As for GB reporting on Van Jones. I have no idea who Van Jones is, but it was a GB report so I just assumed it was a lie or gross misrepresentation of fact. But I will admit I was wrong about Beck. I thought of him as a slow running clock, that is wrong all the time. But maybe he is like a blinking digital clock with the date, that is he is right for 60 seconds once a year.

    Oh, and by the way, I add this question to all my GB related post, why do you people respect this man so much?! GB lied about things that he has said when he knew he was being recorded and broad casted? I always have asked this question and no one has ever replied. Please someone help me with something more than "show me the link that proves he lied."

    • 7 votes
    #1.62 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 8:22 AM EDT
    CCdesign

    There seems to be a bit of evidence pointing to the fact that Glen Beck might have raped and killed a young Girl you prove that Glenn Beck didn't do it.

    Glenn Beck has offered quotes, video, and statements from Mr Jones, as well as from others that are subject to scrutiny from him and his researchers. What do you offer as 'evidence' pointing to the fact that Beck might have raped and killed a young girl? Do you have statements taken from past interviews, any video of such a thing happening, what about quotes from his own mouth?? Anything remotely close or are you just one pissed off left wing loon filled with the hate you so denounce??

    • 6 votes
    #1.63 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 8:24 AM EDT
    blaze1024

    What do you offer as 'evidence'

    According to Becks own logic and past practices. I don't need evidence to prove he did it. He needs to prove he didn't do it.

    I'm Simply applying Becks on standards of evidence against him. Whats wrong can't take the heat when you get a taste of your own medicine/

    By the way there is an incrementing copy of a police report floating around the Internet with Glen Becks name on it. Once again According to Becks own practices, I don't need to prove that the Glen Beck on the police report is him he needs to prove its not him.

    • 3 votes
    #1.64 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 8:33 AM EDT
    Kate-546578

    I don't need evidence to prove he did it. He needs to prove he didn't do it.

    You're in the wrong country, pal. That is not the way the American Justice system works.

    • 4 votes
    #1.65 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 9:05 AM EDT
    blaze1024

    You're in the wrong country, pal. That is not the way the American Justice system works.

    Stand up.... Your too short.... it went over your head! Damn some of you are beyond dense. This has nothing to do with the legal system this is about giving Glen Beck a taste of his own medicine by applying his own standards against him

    That is not the way the American Justice system works.

    Thats what they keep telling us but to be honest you would never really know it.

    • 4 votes
    #1.66 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 9:23 AM EDT
    Zoolopolis

    The GOP is collapsing into an incredibly dense core of racists and extremists. The black hole of crazy that is Beck is the perfect example.

    Pretty soon, his only sponsor will be Vince from ShamWow.

    • 5 votes
    #1.67 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 10:03 AM EDT
    GlassMan30

    Glenn Beck is a COMMENTATOR, a personality. He reads what's given him, plain and simple.

    ...reads whats given him... sounds an awful lot like someone else I know, o that's right - our President. Difference is - Beck is truthful.

    • 4 votes
    #1.68 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 10:27 AM EDT
    The Observer

    Glenn Beck is far more of a journalist than the Liberal media!

    The Van Jones (non) feeding frenzy

    By: Byron York
    Chief Political Correspondent
    09/04/09 11:30 AM EDT

    From a Nexis search a few moments ago:

    Total words about the Van Jones controversy in the New York Times: 0.
    Total words about the Van Jones controversy in the Washington Post: 0.
    Total words about the Van Jones controversy on NBC Nightly News: 0.
    Total words about the Van Jones controversy on ABC World News: 0.
    Total words about the Van Jones controversy on CBS Evening News: 0.

    If you were to receive all your news from any one of these outlets, or even all of them together, and you heard about some sort of controversy involving President Obama's Special Adviser for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation, your response would be, "Huh?" If you heard that that adviser, Van Jones, had apologized for a number of remarks and positions in the recent past, your response would be, "What?"

    • 8 votes
    #1.69 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 10:58 AM EDT
    Mary-268849

    A picture is worth a thousand words....but a video is priceless

    • 4 votes
    #1.70 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 10:58 AM EDT
    CCdesign

    According to Becks own logic and past practices. I don't need evidence to prove he did it. He needs to prove he didn't do it

    As I mentioned and you failed to either comprehend or recognize or both, Beck does offer evidence and always has with (try to follow) quotes from articles, video of those in question, or direct statements in interviews.

    Now, again, can you offer anything even remotely close to that or do you have only lies that may or may not make you liable in a civil suit for spreading outright unsubstantiated accusations?

    If it is the later, then you only reinforce the fact that the left will lie no matter what cost to justify the ends.

    • 5 votes
    #1.71 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 11:47 AM EDT
    Bob-725866

    The Observer:

    Washington Post pg A3, 2 (1/2) columns, "White House Says Little About Embattled Jones" by Garance Franke-Ruta and Anne E Kornblut. Unfortunatly the rest of my papers are left on the bus or gone in the recycling. I read about it in the Examiner and The Express as well but don't feel like engaging in searches. Take my word or not for those. Post credits the blogger Gateway Pundit for breaking the petition, they credit FOX "host" GB for declaring war over his advertsing campaign.

    • 1 vote
    #1.72 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 12:48 PM EDT
    Greg-281912

    I appreciate the fact that Glenn Beck knows how to make a very good living!

    Nothing wrong with that! Pure capitalism at it's very finest!

    I may or may not agree with Beck, or Limbaugh, or Olberman, or Coulter, or for that matter Obama or Bush, but they are all in it for the $$$, and we all support good ol' American Capitalism, don't we? Why, we starts wars to spread our ideologies! We die so that Beck and Limbaugh and Olberman can be free to exercise their rights!

    If you don't like American Capitalism, then for goodness sakes move to another country where you won't have to be subject to it!

    • 1 vote
    #1.73 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 1:08 PM EDT
    AZPADDY

    You includedpresident Obama's and Dubya's name among the trash journalists and say "they" are in it for the money? President Obama is a man who could be making much more money without 1/8 the trouble, and Bush was born into wealth that 98% of us will never see.

    True journalism has been denigrated to back alley status with the advent of snake oil salesmen like Coulter, Limbaugh and the rest of the high volume clowns.

    You further denigrate the honor of veterans by saying "we" die so the likes of Limbaugh and Beck "can be free to exercise their right"??

    If "journalists" like that are " excercising their rights", we are knee deep in the process of America's death throes.

    Maybe a civil war is unavoidable with the onslaught of the hate from the right, and salvation of the nation will be in the form of a rifle's butt-stroke to the jaws of "journalists" such as Beck and Limbaugh.

    Don't assume the capitalism and patriotism go hand in hand. Today's capitalism deserves a place all its own....like the alleyways of Wall Street.

    • 2 votes
    #1.74 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 1:50 PM EDT
    Mick SmitDeleted
    Beverly H

    @ Blaze, The truth is Beck did present the evidence against VJ, he unravelled the web for all to see the venomous creature ready to bite, it was his own words that crushed him, his own affiliations and his own confessions. In this country one is innocent until proven guilty, you prove the guilt not the innocence, Beck did that by showing VJ's confessions of guilt.

    • 1 vote
    #1.76 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 3:51 PM EDT
    blaze1024

    Beck does offer evidence and always has with (try to follow) quotes from articles, video of those in question, or direct statements in interviews.

    Oh Puleeeeaaase , No normal thinking person would ever conclude that what Beck offers as evidence, has any credibility.

    Most of his so called evidence consists mainly of strawman arguments and circular logic. But the thing that really destroys any credibility he could have ever possibly had is his total reliance on inductive reasoning.

    I'm sure I'm like millions of other Beck's listeners, I listen to him only for the shear comic relief

    Just like the Birthers and the truthers, Beck and his fanatical fans are nothing more then pure entertainment. They are in fact a world wide laughing stock. If you want to see Becks future just look at Orly Taitz.

    • 6 votes
    #1.77 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 6:01 PM EDT
    CCdesign

    Glen Beck: "The sky is blue"

    Blaze1024: "no it isn't"

    • 2 votes
    #1.78 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:34 PM EDT
    Rickeroo

    Madison from NY in 1.25:

    Beck did a public service by helping to publicize the facts about Jones and the other czars.

    This is 100% on point. His was the lone voice, but it's since been joined by Fox. They recently had a headline about Van Jones' resignation: "Who's Next?"

    This bodes well. We are no longer alone.

    • 3 votes
    #1.79 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 8:53 PM EDT
    AZPADDY

    Alone?

    Outside of newsvine and FOX you are.

      #1.80 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 1:08 AM EDT
      Rachel-474838

      Glenn Beck is nothing but a extreme shock jock.  The popularity of these extreme position programs is that they are designed to fear-monger and to manufacture outrage.  They daily manufacture outrage and make you fearful.  They scare you with the extreme things that they say e.g. comparing Obama to "Hitler."  Their tactics work well only on the uneducated and weak-minded.  Those of us who are educated and moderates are only scared away from the Republican party because of this.  I frankly do not want to be associated with the hysterical, uneducated masses fearing "Socialist Indoctrination."  Do you realize how stupid you sound?  What would you have thought of people saying that George Bush or Ronald Reagan were facists and Nazis trying to indocrtinate our youth and people pulling their kids out of school so that their kids would not hear them speak.  Do the Republican party a favor and stop getting your information from extreme shock jocks -- you are making us all look nuts. 

      • 3 votes
      #1.81 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 8:25 AM EDT
      Bob-725866

      Rickeroo:

      His was the lone voice

      except for the blogger Gateway Pundit who actually broke the story of the petition and FOX picked it up.

      • 2 votes
      #1.82 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 10:04 AM EDT
      shanescolumns

      Well i my be a day late and a dollor short but i'll through in my 2 cents any way.

      Dylan923

      Do you have any proof to offer that it was actually BECK and not others that dug up the facts used in this exposing of Van Jones?

      Glenn Beck has a staff, he is not flying solo. much of his staff does the resurch for him, then he reviews it and coment on what was found. he does some of the searching but thats done mostly by his staff.

      • 1 vote
      #1.83 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 10:58 AM EDT
      danapointdaddy

      here here!!!

      __________________________________________________________

      veegee-789203

      Liberals are going thru the same denial that the conservatives did over Bush, OUR guy is perfect, the "media" hates him and all he stands for blah blah blah blah...guess now the "liberals" know what it felt like to the conservatives a couple years ago.

      As far as Beck goes, love him or hate him, HE was right about this clown, there is NO room for a guy like that in high gov't levels with his ability to get the Prez ear! Jones was one of the worst racists, ala at a Sharpton level but much more nasty and scarey. As far as those who suggest Beck is just spouting what he is told to spout, hey, get real, there is NO honesty at all from anyone at MSNBC, and yet that doesn't seem to bother you! They are just spouting the company (ie GE their owner and master) tells them to spout! GE is fast becoming the "halliburton" of the Obama administration! Where are the liberal screams of anger at the inside track GE seems to have with Obama? Do you really think the anchors and commentators at MSNBC are so stupid they could not also see those racist, communist rants from Jones? These are stories that ALL of the news channels, broadcast or cable, should be reporting on, not just one lone commentator on FOX news!

      Now, lets pay attention to what Beck is saying about ACORN and its influence on the Obama administration!!!!

        #1.84 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 10:59 AM EDT
        deccles02

        I'm not a big of the Obama adminstration only because he's continued what the Bush administration did for 8 years. Everybody knows this, but for some reason the right wing suddenly wants to stop it now. Idiots.

        However, Glenn Beck (regarding van Jones) is a lying sack of $%!&, and I've already proven this on News Vine with a link I posted weeks ago.

        But for some strange reason, you right wingers didn't seem interested in reading it. Probably because it would deflate your rah rah Beck campaign.

        He's pushed the false information on Van Jones for weeks now to the point where everyone who listens to him has once again fallen under the Bush Syndrome.

        Repeat anything enough times and it's eventually accepted as truth.

        Glenn Beck is using anything he can find to save his sorry ass, and anyone with half a brain and a sixth grade reading level can discover that his reporting of Van Jones is based in innuendo and accusation only. There is no factual basis for his claims.

        Here's the link I posted about two weeks ago showing Beck to be a liar.

        http://deccles02.newsvine.com/_news/2009/08/31/3210824-glenn-becks-crazy-lies-about-van-jones

        Here's another one just to make sure we're all familiar with how coded statements from liars such as Beck encourage this kind of mindless posting from people who can't think for themselves.

        http://deccles02.newsvine.com/_news/2009/09/03/3221569-the-wing-nut-code-what-glenn-beck-and-sarah-palin-are-really-saying-to-their-followers

        • 1 vote
        #1.85 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 11:38 AM EDT
        shanescolumns

        Deccles02

        You have not proven anything, Van Jones in an interview said he was arrested and while in jail he meet these radicals and became a Communist after warred.

        here is a wiki quote take it for what its worth, and why has Van Jones him self not contested his jail time.

        Early activism In 1992, while still a law student at Yale, Jones participated as a volunteer legal monitor for a protest of the Rodney King verdict in San Francisco. He and many other participants in the protest were arrested. The district attorney later dropped the charges against Jones. The arrested protesters, including Jones, won a small legal settlement. Jones later said that "the incident deepened my disaffection with the system and accelerated my political radicalization."[10] His outrage over the verdict radicalized him: Jones said he was "a rowdy nationalist"[11] before the King verdict was announced. By August of that year, he said, "I was a communist."[11] Jones's activism was also spurred on by witnessing racial inequality in New Haven: "I was seeing kids at Yale do drugs and talk about it openly, and have nothing happen to them or, if anything, get sent to rehab...And then I was seeing kids three blocks away, in the housing projects, doing the same drugs, in smaller amounts, go to prison."[9] When he graduated law school, Jones gave up plans to take a job in Washington, D.C., and moved to San Francisco instead.[11] He got involved with Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), a group explicitly committed to revolutionary Marxist politics[12] whose points of unity were revolutionary democracy, revolutionary feminism, revolutionary internationalism, the central role of the working class, urban Marxism, and Third World Communism.[13] While with STORM, Jones actively began protesting police brutality.[11]

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Jones

        and again who do I believe, Van Jones own words or a supposed former boss?

        i don't know about you but I'll believe Van Jones own words over any one else.

        • 3 votes
        #1.86 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 11:57 AM EDT
        shanescolumns

        Oh and what do you say about all the vidwo interview of him saying stuff. you cant dissmiss them unless you think someone edited him to say that, LOL .

        • 1 vote
        #1.87 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 12:22 PM EDT
        Darkdonnie

        but for some reason the right wing suddenly wants to stop it now. Idiots.

        Better late than never, what would be truly idiotic is to let it continue, would you not agree?

        • 2 votes
        #1.88 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 12:27 PM EDT
        Robert Blevins - AB of Seattle

        EllePhat says in part:

        'There is a stench emanating from this WH that has been ignored by the media since the primaries last year. Time to clear the air and root out the rot.'

        What 'stench'? That he's a Democrat and Americans were tired of being lied to by the Bush Administration?

        What 'rot'?

        You keep speaking in allegories. How about some specifics you can prove.

        • 3 votes
        #1.89 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 1:47 AM EDT
        Reply
        Blue Boy

        Ha,

        I definitley had a good laugh from this. Glenn Beck and truth should never be said in the same sentence.

        You think because he says "I just love my country" 20 times in every speech and tears up he gives a crap about the truth and gives a crap about you ?

        It's not a blatent media bias, it's your blatent capability to understand things outside of your Fox news fed' head.

        There's no hope for you.

        • 35 votes
        #2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:56 AM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        That is why Obama supporters cannot stand Beck and Palin. They are afraid of the truth

        Yes, I'd love to see "truth" on the 2012 GOP ticket. Now THAT would be an interesting presidential debate. Palin v. Obama.

        Palin: "Well, America has values that like because Christian morals from our founding fathers the world we have is better because of people like John McCain death panels and big government are not freedom".

        Moderator: "The question was, 'are Republicans manipulating misinformation and fear to scare up opposition to the Democrats'."

        Palin: "I stand by my remark."

        • 30 votes
        #2.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:13 PM EDT
        vol fan in chatt, tn

        well, maybe if some of the other news channels weren't so far up Obama's butt, they would have some cedibility. But they will sink, just like Obama, because of they are one in the same.

        • 29 votes
        #2.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:13 PM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        well, maybe if some of the other news channels weren't so far up Obama's butt

        Hmm, I don't remember any liberal news stations graciously ignoring the controversy surrounding Jeremiah Wright...but sure, yeah, the media's in the tank for Obama just because their negative to positive story ratio for him isn't 6:1 like Fox News Entertainment. Sure, okay.

        But they will sink, just like Obama

        Someone must have ignored the 2nd quarter profit margins for FoxNews Entertainment.

        • 26 votes
        #2.3 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:24 PM EDT
        vol fan in chatt, tn

        someone must be missing the Nielsen ratings for about the last 9 months.

        • 20 votes
        #2.4 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:31 PM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        Someone must not understand that Nielsen ratings do not equal profits.

        • 14 votes
        #2.5 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:03 PM EDT
        Dylan923

        Someone must not understand that Nielsen ratings do not equal profits.

        Someone else must not understand broadcast media and how it's advertisers work in relation to ratings. High Neilson ratings absolutely equal profits.

        • 13 votes
        #2.6 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:07 PM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        "Another criticism of the Nielsen ratings system is its lack of a system for measuring television audiences in environments outside the home, such as college dormitories, transport terminals, bars, and other public places where television is frequently viewed, often by large numbers of people in a common setting. Internet TV viewing is another rapidly growing market for which Nielsen Ratings fail to account for viewer impact. Apple iTunes, atomfilms, YouTube, and some of the networks' own websites (e.g., ABC.com, CBS.com) provide full-length web-based programming, either subscription-based or ad-supported. Though web sites can already track popularity of a site and the referring page, they can't track viewer demographics."

        Nielsen ratings are far from being the end-all be-all. And, coincidentally, would you remind me of how many companies it was that have stopped advertising on Glenn Beck's show? But that must mean more profits, losing over 50 advertisement slots of billion-dollar industries, you've gotta be raking in money hand over fist.

        And if "high Nielsen ratings absolutely equal profits", how come FoxNews Entertainment corp saw their profits drop by such a colossal margin last quarter?

        • 15 votes
        #2.7 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:23 PM EDT
        Dylan923

        And if "high Nielsen ratings absolutely equal profits", how come FoxNews Entertainment corp saw their profits drop by such a colossal margin last quarter?

        I can't personally speak for FOX NEWS because I don't work for them. But high ratings mean more profit in any market.

        Although I'm no big fan of any ratings type system, ESPECIALLY ARBITRON, higher ratings in competative markets traditionally mean increases in advertising revenue. This is why radio and television stations are always trying to one-up the other.

        Though web sites can already track popularity of a site and the referring page, they can't track viewer demographics."

        Actually they can, through call-out research.

        • 7 votes
        #2.8 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:30 PM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        I can't personally speak for FOX NEWS because I don't work for them. But high ratings mean more profit in any market.

        *facepalm*

        When expenditures outweigh revenue, that's called a deficit. FoxNews is making a lot of money, as is evident in their ratings, but they're spending even more to keep their partisan bastion of conservative thought in running order. Hence their terrible 2nd quarter numbers.

        Though web sites can already track popularity of a site and the referring page, they can't track viewer demographics."

        Actually they can, through call-out research.

        The problem is, they DON'T. When you tune in to Countdown with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC.com, you aren't greeted with a survey. When you watch thisWeek on ABC.com, there is no 5-minute demographic survey that asks you to fill out information about yourself. And do you know what Nielsen does with incomplete demographic results? They can them. "Oh, that's nice, MSNBC, 4 million hits on your video reruns, how many of them are women? You don't know? Well, then those 4 million people won't be included in our ratings, it could just be one guy watching a one hour show 4 million times."

        • 12 votes
        #2.9 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:52 PM EDT
        Dylan923

        What is with you people and this facepalm @!$%#.

        Are you in broadcasting? Do you work for television and/or radio? And don't patronize, it's very unbecoming. I don't watch Keith Olberman nor do I watch Glenn Beck. What I DO DO, is keep very close track of my own stations' ratings and how we profit from those ratings when they go up and how we lose profit when they go down.

        The problem is, they DON'T.

        You honestly don't understand how this works do you? Call-Out research is not a 5 minute dempgraphic survey in the middle of a program.

        I'm not going to argue this with you, it's obvious you're only going by fox numbers as they go up and down for profit margin and you're simply missing too much of the process to make a valid argument. There's alot more to it than quarterly earning reports and the such.

        What do you do for a living by the way?

        • 5 votes
        #2.10 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:00 PM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        What do you do for a living by the way?

        I'm a full-time college student at an Ivy League university. Seeing as how my tuition is upwards of $60,000/year, and the average income in America floats around $37,000, I'd say that's not half bad for an 18-year old. What do YOU do for a living?

        There's alot more to it than quarterly earning reports and the such.

        If you give me a three-hour presentation of the ills that befell your company, and the special events that needed tending to, and the rate of international inflation, and then at the end I asked you "well super, but what's the bottom line" and you said "erm, our profits went down by 60%" I am going to be pissed as all get out. There is more to it than quarterly earning reports, but quarterly earning reports are all that anyone (including the owner(s)) care about.

        • 10 votes
        #2.11 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:06 PM EDT
        Madison From NY

        Blue,

        I take it, then, that Jones resigned because of "what [Jones] called a 'vicious smear campaign against me.'"

        If vicious smear campaigns worked without real facts, Beck would have given up the ghost ages ago.

        • 20 votes
        #2.12 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:12 PM EDT
        Dylan923

        I'm a full-time college student at an Ivy League university. Seeing as how my tuition is upwards of $60,000/year, and the average income in America floats around $37,000, I'd say that's not half bad for an 18-year old.

        Well that not only explains your argumentative attitude, but that last little snippet certainly explains your mindset as well. Congratulations on spending lots of your parents money and throwing it in the face of others who aren't as elitely fortunate as yourself. Good for you kid, you're an Ivy Leager:

        SO WHAT?!? Go graduate and get some life experience then come back and talk to me about numbers and ratings and what's important in the workplace.

        There is more to it than quarterly earning reports, but quarterly earning reports are all that anyone (including the owner(s)) care about.

        If you believe this statement, you have alot to learn about life in the workplace kid.

        • 12 votes
        #2.13 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:15 PM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        Congratulations on spending lots of your parents money

        I got a full-ride.

        and throwing it in the face of others who aren't as elitely fortunate as yourself.

        If you spent at least 3 hours a day reading books since you were 6, then you probably could've gone to an Ivy League school too. I earned everything I got. Nothing was handed to me. I was gifted with rather extraordinary intelligence. Super. I had to spend thousands of hours cultivating and nourishing it.

        quarterly earning reports are all that anyone (including the owner(s)) care about.

        If you believe this statement, you have alot to learn about life in the workplace kid.

        You know, if my dad's company had not just shut down his branch because their quarterly earnings were bad (despite 6 consecutive years of stellar profits), then I might agree with you.

        • 10 votes
        #2.14 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:23 PM EDT
        dar63

        Blue Boy

        Glenn Beck and truth should never be said in the same sentence.

        Funny, I feel the same way about Obama, hope and change in the same sentence.

        A nod to Glenn Beck....31 "Czar's" to go...

        • 21 votes
        #2.15 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:33 PM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        Glenn Beck and truth should never be said in the same sentence.

        Nonsense! "Glenn Beck is a malevolent sycophantic farsical purveyor of 'truth'."

        See? I did it!

        • 12 votes
        #2.16 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:38 PM EDT
        john-1205479

        sol badguy said "I was gifted with rather extraordinary intelligence"

        My question to you would be" Why the hell are you defending obama then if you're so smart" Unless of course book smarts don't always equal common sense

        Then again you might just be lying and you live in your parents basement

        • 14 votes
        #2.17 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:09 PM EDT
        Ms Lovelee

        Beck is a talk show host and an alcholic

        Rush is a pill popping drug addict

        Obama is a Professor of Constitutional law and the President of the United States.

        Hummm I believe Obama thank you very much!

        • 13 votes
        #2.18 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:16 PM EDT
        dar63

        Ms Lovelee -

        ...Obama is a Professor of Constitutional law

        Obama was a Senior Lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School who taught three courses per Year. Not a Professor...

        • 14 votes
        #2.19 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:30 PM EDT
        Dylan923

        Obama is a Professor of Constitutional law and the President of the United States.

        Don't forget the: And a liar, and a breaker of promises and one who does not lead by example or does not practice what he preaches and certainly does not have the best interest of this country or its citizens at heart. Don't forget all that when you praise your boy Obama.

        • 13 votes
        #2.20 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:38 PM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        Then again you might just be lying and you live in your parents basement

        Yeah, see that email address that's listed there? Notably the part that says @cornell? They don't give those out to everyone. But sure, go on thinking that, only genius conservatives are correct, stoopid liberalz iz not goods enough for smart-like.

        • 13 votes
        #2.21 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:55 PM EDT
        Dylan923

        If you spent at least 3 hours a day reading books since you were 6, then you probably could've gone to an Ivy League school too. I earned everything I got. Nothing was handed to me. I was gifted with rather extraordinary intelligence. Super. I had to spend thousands of hours cultivating and nourishing it.

        Kid, you're letting blanket assumptions bite you right in the ass. I could've gone to any school I wanted. I'm a member of MENSA, ever heard of the organization? Don't overestimate yourself, you haven't earned @!$%#, you're only 18 years old, hell you haven't even had the chance to experience life yet, but with that elitist attitude of yours, dare I say reality will hit you square in the mouth soon enough.

        Do you think you can come on here and impress people with all that intelligence and full ride bull@!$%#? Well I, for one, am not impressed. Anyone with half a brain and the knowledge of how to pass a test can get a ride in college. So what..........................-

        I was gifted with rather extraordinary intelligence

        No, you weren't. Marilyn Savant was gifted with extraordinary inttligence.

        Get over yourself kid, and get a grip on that ego or you're headed for some really rude awakenings down a long hard road to reality.

        • 12 votes
        #2.22 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 6:15 PM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        could've gone to any school I wanted

        you haven't earned @!$%#

        I, for one, am not impressed.

        Anyone with half a brain and the knowledge of how to pass a test can get a ride in college.

        Do you think you can come on here and impress people with all that intelligence and full ride bull@!$%#?

        I've obviously touched a nerve here. I apologize. I will not comment further on this subject. I did not mean to tout my accomplishments in pride, rather, I referred to them in self-defense. I was accused of living in my parent's basement. Regardless, I'm stepping back here, and I once again apologize for any metaphysical scars I may have incidentally inflicted or any painful memories I may have resurfaced.

        • 10 votes
        #2.23 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:02 PM EDT
        JustinPM

        Obama was a Senior Lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School who taught three courses per Year. Not a Professor...

        Per University of Chicago's website:

        From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track.

        • 6 votes
        #2.24 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:44 PM EDT
        JERRY COLEMAN

        Blue Boy

        Ha,

        I definitley had a good laugh from this. Glenn Beck and truth should never be said in the same sentence.

        You think because he says "I just love my country" 20 times in every speech and tears up he gives a crap about the truth and gives a crap about you ?

        It's not a blatent media bias, it's your blatent capability to understand things outside of your Fox news fed' head.

        There's no hope for you.

        Fox only reason for their rating been so high is hate for the president and the color of his skin, their whole programing scheme is to spread hate for the president and bring him down, they use the same tactic that McCarthy used in the fifties and what Hitler did in his day, the conservatives want to pit American people against each other, the democrats do the same thing but not as vicious as the republican conservatives are,

        Fox say they are fair and balance and i say they are fair to their truth and balance to the republicans spin,

        • 6 votes
        #2.25 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:28 PM EDT
        tom sevigny

        Senior lectureres are considered to be members of the lawschool faculty and are regarded as professors...

        Semantics. And a veterinarian can also choose to be called Doctor at his highschool reunion..

        • 8 votes
        #2.26 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:51 PM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        And a veterinarian can also choose to be called Doctor at his highschool reunion.

        Indeed, he can.

        • 4 votes
        #2.27 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:53 PM EDT
        tom sevigny

        Actually nothing would surprise me about Harvard Law School. It is ultra-liberal and it has a history of having an unjust an hypocritical honor code. Daddy paid them off when young Ted Kennedy got caught cheating on an exam. Normally a student would be out like shiznit through a Canada goose.

        I suppose that in a liberal university like Harvard, that teaching young Che' Tee-shirt wearing radicals about Saul Alinskey (a communist) and his methods of community agitating as germane to rigorous study of the U.S. Constitution is acceptable.

        • 11 votes
        #2.28 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 9:04 PM EDT
        Ms Lovelee

        Thanks Justin... He is indeed a Professor.

        Semantics is an excuse to willingly ignore the truth... a motto in this day and age I can see

        • 1 vote
        #2.29 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 9:05 PM EDT
        tom sevigny

        Hey Sol-Badguy,

        At your next highschool reunion ask a treesurgeon for medical advice. You'd be more likely to get an accurate statement than asking Barack Obama whether Redistribution of wealth or reparations is Constitutional.

        And don't tell me your ancestors all died from Dutch Elm Disease either.

        • 8 votes
        #2.30 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 9:15 PM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        I believe that was a feeble attempt at an insult, however; the grammatical structure of your retort was of such a horrendous nature that I could not comprise an adequate riposte. But veterinarians that have graduated from vet school are doctors. My economics teacher is in a situation similar to that of Obama's. She has a PhD. Seems like a professor to me. If you teach a college class, even if it's Orgasm 1101 (yes that is a class), then you are a professor.

        • 3 votes
        #2.31 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 9:27 PM EDT
        Beverly H

        Sol-Badguy

        Someone must not understand that Nielsen ratings do not equal profits.

        And someone is forgetting that soros and emmelt are behind the communist in the whitehouse which is keeping their propaganda media going through MSNBC, CBS, NBC, and CNN, I really think the posers on those "NEWS" outlets are getting screwed in the back ally

        • 5 votes
        #2.32 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 12:43 AM EDT
        Beverly H

        Blue Boy

        Ha,

        I definitley had a good laugh from this. Glenn Beck and truth should never be said in the same sentence.

        You think because he says "I just love my country" 20 times in every speech and tears up he gives a crap about the truth and gives a crap about you ?

        It's not a blatent media bias, it's your blatent capability to understand things outside of your Fox news fed' head.

        There's no hope for you.

        Fox only reason for their rating been so high is hate for the president and the color of his skin, their whole programing scheme is to spread hate for the president and bring him down, they use the same tactic that McCarthy used in the fifties and what Hitler did in his day, the conservatives want to pit American people against each other, the democrats do the same thing but not as vicious as the republican conservatives are,

        Fox say they are fair and balance and i say they are fair to their truth and balance to the republicans spin,

        You are really out of touch, we all have found out the dirty little secrets of the left, the President and his staff promote racial division and you, his little sheeple have nothing but the race card to play when trying to defend a position...good job, he would be proud!

        • 6 votes
        #2.33 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 12:51 AM EDT
        redsfan

        Van Jones has more class and more care for his fellow human-beings than Glenn Beck has ever had...

        Van Jones is the founder and president Green For All, a national organization dedicated to building an inclusive, green economy, strong enough to lift millions of people out of poverty... As an advocate for the toughest urban constituencies and causes, he has won many honors, including the Rockefeller Foundation Next Generation Leadership Fellowship. Jones is also cofounder and board president of The Ella Baker Center for Human Rights in Oakland, California. The center promotes alternatives to violence and incarceration, including a successful “Books Not Bars” campaign that has helped reduce California’s overall youth prison population by more than 30 percent...

        The Green Collar Economy

        • 3 votes
        #2.34 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 1:24 AM EDT
        SBVORDeleted
        redsfan

        SBVOR - your opinion blogs ranting about socialism and climate change denial are much more disturbing than anything I've heard Van Jones say. And you have not refuted anything in his biography above...just more "big bad socialist Obama is gonna take away our rights" crap.

        • 7 votes
        #2.36 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 1:38 AM EDT
        PanhandleMike

        Someone must have ignored the 2nd quarter profit margins for FoxNews Entertainment.

        Oh really? One sentence from The Atlantic (I believe this is a left leaning publication) will prove you wrong.

        The channel reported a 50 present increase in profit last quarter.....(dated Aug 8, 2009 1:10 pm by Derek Thompson) So by that, there is a direct correlation between profits and ratings because viewership has increased for the news channel. Though I rarely agree with Dylan923, his comment "High Neilson ratings absolutely equal profits" is spot on.

        • 3 votes
        #2.37 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 6:21 AM EDT
        JustinPM

        Semantics. And a veterinarian can also choose to be called Doctor at his highschool reunion..

        Except that one is that a person claiming something and another is an institution clarifying. I would think that you might have a higher regard for the truth.

        • 2 votes
        #2.38 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 12:47 AM EDT
        Over Seas

        Ms Lovelee

        Beck is a talk show host and an alcholic

        Rush is a pill popping drug addict

        Obama is a Professor of Constitutional law and the President of the United States.

        Hummm I believe Obama thank you very much!

        I love it! The inanity of this comparison is astouding. Let's try another one, shall we?

        Steven Hawking is a parapalegic.

        Bill Gates couldn't hack it at Harvard and is a college dropout.

        Mark Cuban is a successful billionare and owner of an NBA franchise.

        So by focusing on a disability from one person and a negative talking point on a 2nd person, I can point out two facts about a 3rd person and make it sound like the 3rd is better than both the 1st and 2nd. That's a nifty trick.

        Never mind that Hawking is a lot smarter than Cuban, and Gates could buy Cuban with his lunch money... but hey, whatever makes you happy.

        • 1 vote
        #2.39 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 5:41 PM EDT
        Reply
        Mike in AZ-1141523

        Nice article Madison. Those who don't agree never will see the facts because they refuse to. Reality is that Beck is bringing out the truth that the media ignored during the campaign. Obama has surrounded himself with these wack jobs and nobody has held him accountable, until Beck.

        Although so many on this vine criticize Beck, they still watch him. They will all be watching him this upcoming week to see who he will be exposing next and plan their defense of that person. Unfortunately for Obama, he has so many of these kooks on his staff so Beck will be around awhile.

        • 15 votes
        #3 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:26 PM EDT
        Dylan923

        Reality is that Beck is bringing out the truth that the media ignored during the campaign.

        Regardless, Glenn Beck is no investigative journalist, period. He's a COMMENTATOR. He only reads and speaks of what is given him by others, adding opinion as he goes along. Larry King is a COMMENTATOR, Sean Hannity is a COMMENTATOR, in addition to being a complete and total ass. Christine Amapour is an investigative journalist. Cami McCormick is an investigative journalist.

        HUGE DIFFERENCE.......................

        • 13 votes
        #3.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:37 PM EDT
        Madison From NY

        Mike,

        The truth is a powerful weapon, insufficiently brought to bear on this Administration until now.

        I agree that going forward both sides will be watching the truths reported on by Beck.

        Obama has placed himself in jeopardy with the astounding number of czars he hired to do his personal bidding--unprecedented in a democratic republic like the US. They have no legal authority like a congressionally vetted cabinet member appointed under the Constitution. So how can they accomplish Obama's goals except through threats backed by the power of the Presidency on one hand and bribes like tarp and stimulus (read: funds for friends) on the other?

        Makes a lot of us nervous.

        • 20 votes
        #3.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:47 PM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        *facepalm*

        Gee, one wonders where the whole notion of tsars came from. Surely it was not a Republican president. Surely Nixon and Reagan did not have their own tsars. Say it ain't so, Joe. Tsars are not inherently evil. Bush appointed a smattering of his old cronies when he took office. Obama did the same. It's called a plum book write-in. Bush had tsars, just like Obama had tsars. But Bush's tsars were largely incompetent, while Obama's tsars seem to be teetering on the edge of actually having a clue. If I replaced the word "Obama" with "Bush" in your retort, Madison, I'd still be making a boatload of sense. Why? Because everyone uses tsars.

        • 8 votes
        #3.3 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:16 PM EDT
        jsbach

        Dylan,

        I have a question for you as you bring up a good point. First, if it's Beck's idea to tell his staff to begin finding out more on this guy, then who gets the credit? I would imagine that all people involved are to be given kudos for their work.

        But, my question to you is, those people on 60 Minutes, like Mike Wallace, would you consider them investigative reporters? If Mike Wallace says to his team, let's go after this guy, is it then only the team that deserves the credit or should Mike Wallace be included?

        I am very curious as to what makes a journalist a journalist and what makes a journalist an investigative reporter.

        • 11 votes
        #3.4 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:21 PM EDT
        Dylan923

        jsbach,

        Nice to hear from you again, been a little while.

        In response to your question concerning the 60 minutes crew, Mike Wallace was a journalist way before he was a television personality. Mike Wallace's journalistic record stands on its own merit.

        As for Beck, Glenn Beck started with a radio talk program and gravitated to television. He's an opinion personality. He takes already written news and reports and does opinion based commentary on them.

        As for the question on what makes a journalist a journalist and an investigative reporter an investigative reporter: While I'm certainly no expert on literal definitions, having worked in journalism and broadcast media in general for the past 14 years, a "JOURNALIST" takes leads given them by News Directors, editors, producers, whatever the case, and follow up on the leads to generate a story. They go get sound bytes, research numbers, leads, validate the accuracy of any given quote, write the story and either hand it over to be broadcast or report on the story themselves. In this latter case, in radio we call that style doing a "VOICER". The anchor reads a lead then throws it to the reporter, who literally records the story in the first person. Most of these VOICERS are pre-recorded although with breaking news, they're done live as programming schedules permit.

        Investigative Journalists take controversial and/or important issues, go on location and investigate allegations and/or claims for validity, talk to people and pretty much build a story around the allegations or claims. Alot of people equate investigative journalism with "BRINGING SOMEONE OR SOMETHING DOWN", but this doesn't necessarily have to be the case. Investigative Journalism can simply be detailed and informative feature stories as opposed to news clips often associated with reporters.

        Christine Amapour is one of the top investigative reporters in the world today and alot of her material is not controversial, simply very detailed informative feature pieces. Far and away the most famous investigative journalists around are Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, they brought down Nixon.

        My current assignment is working on an investigative story concerning the payment of wages owed by employers and the state of Nebraska's Department of Labor to do anything when employers refuse to pay wages owed. Nebraska is an "AT WILL" employment state and as such, the laws overwhelmingly favor the employer. There is a certain trucking company in this state that regularly and consistently refuses to pay it's drivers or people who quit. The Director of the Department of Labor in Nebraska is in a real spot because while the law provides that an employer is required to pay all wages owed, there is no legal recourse for the D.O.L to go after these people other than to demand they pay. If they refuse, there is absolutely nothing the D.O.L can due exccept advise the wronged employee to file in small claims court. The catch? An employee has to wait 30 days to file and if they have already filed a wage claim with the state, then they're prohibited from filing AGAIN in small claims court, kind of a double jeapordy thing. It's getting pretty nasty as the DOT and the IRS are now involved in this issue as well.

        Hope this answers your question?

        • 6 votes
        #3.5 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:52 PM EDT
        jsbach

        Dylan,

        It is always good to see you.

        Hope this answers your question?

        Yes, you have helped me above and beyond, as usual. Thank you, very much.

        Far and away the most famous investigative journalists around are Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, they brought down Nixon.

        For me, it's a perfect example of investigative journalism. Also, it was the first time I had ever seen this type of journalism, period. I voted for the guy, but when that story broke, I was just "wowed" by the work of these two guys. This made their career, I think.

        I know of your work history, but only now am I learning of your current assignment. I realize you are unable to divulge the name of the trucking company, but I am curious, nonetheless. Many trucking companies have a main hub in one state with terminals in other parts of the country.

        The tactics used by the trucking company are unconscionable to say the least and it's unfortunate that the law doesn't allow for the employees to seek "justice." How a company can legally operate in this manner is difficult to grasp, yet they do.

        My state is an "At Will" state too. The employer does not have to give cause as to the discharge of an employee. Very unfair.

        Christine Amapour is one of the top investigative reporters in the world today and alot of her material is not controversial, simply very detailed informative feature pieces.

        I will look her up. Thank you for the heads up on her and for answering my questions so thoroughly.

        • 3 votes
        #3.6 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:41 PM EDT
        Dylan923

        Glad to help my friend. As for the name of the company, I'll simply say that they have only one terminal, the one here in Nebraska. These people are really in the hot vat presently and what makes this whole assignment interesting is that I can throw a rock from my home and hit their building. I live at the end of a dead end road that ends right at their lot, kind of ironic if you ask me, but work is work.

        Too many states these days are AT WILL states. My brother lives there also, down in Durant. He builds and races stock cars, mostly TIDA. Alot of these trucking companies and other companies as well really take advantage of the at will employment laws, however this case is unique in that the owner of thecomapny literlally told the Director of the Nebraska DOL to go F**K herself about a week ago, he wasn't paying, and so now Jon Bruning (Nebraska Atty General) is involved.

        You should really check out some of Christine's work, it's amazing.

        I have to tell you, I'vev been offered another job, out in Wyoming as a morning show host/program director of a small but hugely successful stand alone station there, and I'm probably going to officially accept the offer on tuesday. That would put me back on the air on Monday the 14th. I'll email you the link to the website so you can listen if you want. It's a pretty good offer with a nice salary and a management commission on everything over a certain amount of sales. And I love Wyoming, I had a #1 rated show there back about 8 years ago before I went to the Virgin Islands to be a beach bum. OPnly an hour or so from Sturgis and NO HELMET LAW-----WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Okay my friend, gotta run to Wal Mart(I HATE that) and pick up some charcoal, my brother is on his way back to town, so we're gonna BBQ later on.

        Talk to you later and I'll send you the link as soon as I'm in place over there.

        • 2 votes
        #3.7 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:58 PM EDT
        dar63

        Sol-Badguy - True enough. Other President's have had Czar's. A Czar here, a Czar there. But Obama, whoaaa, Czar's Czar's everywhere. Unprecedented Czar usage....with one goal, circumvention of confirmation, you know that silly little they do. Corroboration, ratification and verification that your not a radical crackpot. Van Jones wouldn't made it through the front door otherwise. Begs the question, what about the other 31 Czar's?

        • 9 votes
        #3.8 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 4:00 PM EDT
        jsbach

        Dylan,

        Yes, please email me.

        Madison,

        I apologize to you for going off-topic. It was a legitimate question to Dylan as I knew his background and thought he could help me with my questions. And, of course, he did.

        dar63,

        There does seem to be a multitude of "extras" currently in the White House, doesn't it?

        • 4 votes
        #3.9 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:07 PM EDT
        Ms Lovelee

        I can understand the concern over the Czars... Im not too comfortable with that either but that does not mean all is going to hell in a hand basket. Every Administration has its good and bad sides. There has not been enough time to find out either. Maybe in year 2 we will have a different opinion but for right now only time will tell.

        • 2 votes
        #3.10 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:22 PM EDT
        oneforall

        Dylan

        As for the name of the company, I'll simply say that they have only one terminal, the one here in Nebraska.

        I don't know the details of this companies problems, but if it's W.E., this has been going on for over 30 years.

          #3.11 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 6:30 PM EDT
          shanescolumns

          Here is the problem with the czars, They answer to no one except the president and can not be held accountable to congress like others who go through the normal process.

          at last count i think there were 37 czars - the 4 that resigned plus one new one Bloom, the manufacturing czar.

          I don't mined one, two , or three of them but almost 40, and the personal views they all hold as well.

          Obama said something like "Judged him by the people he has to advise him" well Pres. Obama we are.

          The Presidenthim self can not do much of anything with out the support of the house and Senate, and the czars area means of bypassing them, they are also disposable. they can be thrown away as soon as the start causing problems or get discovered on there real agenda.

          • 1 vote
          #3.12 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 12:56 PM EDT
          blaze1024

          I don't mined one, two , or three of them but almost 40,

          Really so the fact that at one point bush had 45 czars did not bother you. Bush had Czars for almost every conceivable issue. He had a faith based Czar, He had an Aids Czar and a birth-control Czar.

          By the way at last count Obama only has 32.

          • 3 votes
          #3.13 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 9:29 PM EDT
          RKB123

          at one point bush had 45 czars

          Can I check out your source? Thanks.

          • 2 votes
          #3.14 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 11:50 PM EDT
          blaze1024

          Can I check out your source? Thanks.

          Well for some reason Newsvine won't let me post the link.

          It's all public information and Goggle is your friend. The best I can tell Bush at one point had a maximum of 45 czars and had an average of 35 Czars through out his presidency. Bush had everything from a AIDS Czar to a birth control and a Faith based Family values Czar.

          • 3 votes
          #3.15 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 4:30 AM EDT
          RKB123

          Bush didn't have 45 czars. Your link won't post because there isn't one. I'd love to eat crow, if you can figure out how to insert your link. Hint, that chain thingy in your tool bar is your friend.

          • 2 votes
          #3.16 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 9:46 AM EDT
          JustinPM

          Goggle is your friend

          My eyes! The googles do nothing!

          Just kidding.

          • 2 votes
          #3.17 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 10:29 AM EDT
          coalbear_1

          Yep, says Bush 45 czars and Obama 32. Took me 7 seconds of yahoo search.

          • 1 vote
          #3.18 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 12:06 PM EDT
          SBVORDeleted
          Bob-725866

          SBVOR: If you havenot been here long enough and been given "rights" by NV when you paste in into the text it disappears, or it did when I used to try it.

            #3.20 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 2:25 PM EDT
            SBVORDeleted
            Bob-725866

            As long as you are around...do you know how to do it so you have just a word underlined and it links to the site? I can't find instructions anywhere. Thanks!

              #3.22 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 2:42 PM EDT
              SBVORDeleted
              Bob-725866

              When I click the chain icon I get a big white screen andjust a little gray bar "insert/edit" link but it looks like there is probably more not showing.

                #3.24 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 3:27 PM EDT
                SBVORDeleted
                RKB123

                I'd like to see a "reputable" news source that reported that Bush had 45 czars at one time.

                Thanks in advance.

                • 2 votes
                #3.26 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 4:15 PM EDT
                JustinPM

                I don't think Bush had them "at one time" though you will have to give me a little time. I need to get to sleep, and damn if Newsvine isn't distracting. I will get back to this, I promise.

                  #3.27 - Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:02 AM EDT
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                  TheEarthIsNotMyMother

                  Exactly, libs. Beck is a commentator doing the job of the "investigative journalists" who aren't even doing any "investigating." Beck brought down van jones, someone the MSM wasn't even reporting on... next is mark lloyd... there's several more admitted communists/marxist/socialist advising our President. Beck will bring them all to light and make all the other actual 'investigative journalist' look like the commentators that they really are....

                  • 23 votes
                  Reply#4 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:42 PM EDT
                  Rickeroo

                  Agreed. It's as if somehow playing audio/video of these czars is being biased or racist.

                  • 10 votes
                  #4.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:35 PM EDT
                  Madison From NY

                  Precisely:

                  The facts, ma'am, just the facts.

                  That's what we need even if presented along with commentary.

                  Whether you agree with the commentary or not.

                  • 7 votes
                  #4.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:43 PM EDT
                  Mista cookin mama

                  Just like McCarthy did for the entertainment industry. I am sure if you stand on a soap box long enough screaming at the wind you will make others afraid of it too.

                  Beck is no better than Joesph McCarthy, the American people wised up to him as they will wise up to Beck. A sensationalist that doesn't tell the whole truth, only his version of it. A true investigative reporter tells the whole truth regardless of his own personal beliefs. I truly thought this was America where you could serve your country regardless of your belief. I thought that this was America where all view points were looked at. I didn't know that being a socialist or communist was an automatic "black list" to keep you out of public service. I thought that the cold war was over. I thought that we had grown as a nation, I thought the boogey man of communism and socialism was forever debunked. I guess I was wrong.

                  • 10 votes
                  #4.3 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:07 PM EDT
                  Ms Lovelee

                  A true investigative reporter tells the whole truth regardless of his own personal beliefs.

                  I thought that the cold war was over. I thought that we had grown as a nation, I thought the boogey man of communism and socialism was forever debunked. I guess I was wrong.

                  Here HERE!!!! I think people want to have a Civil War and Cold War all over again. We need to come together not take each other down.

                  • 9 votes
                  #4.4 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:25 PM EDT
                  psmitty2005

                  So ok there we have it. Since we lost in the election lets use all of the powers of Fox News to bring Obama's administration to its knees. So this is the playbook? Man...Obama is going to have to toughen up and do something to stop this madness from the right. I'll give the hatemongers on the right credit...you do have the momentum. Go right ahead...don't stop till you completely tear this country apart. I mean it's all about getting your party in power right? Even if some of Obama's ideas would help you and others...lets make sure everything he does is stopped. Lets not stop until some crazy does something henious! I guess we deserve to be destroyed from within. What a sad time.

                  • 4 votes
                  #4.5 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 2:03 AM EDT
                  veegee-789203

                  I dunno Psmitty2005---I seem to remember a LOT of hatemongering against Bush for several years! Now, I have NO use for Bush and think he will go down as one of the worst Prez in history, but frankly, I think he will be tied for that title with Obama!

                  As for Jones resigning, so what, Bush had several of his advisors quit, granted he did not go around congress and the constitution by appointing 30 plus "tsars", but they quit under media (this time it was the LIBERAL media) hip hip hoorays too!

                  Same shoe, different foot!

                  I do agree that we have become paralized as a nation due to the polarization of the two parties, and that is OUR fault for not holding ALL elected leaders, even of your OWN PARTY accountable for not working together for the good of the COUNTRY not their party! It does your children no good to grow up in a country where half hates the other half just due to party affiliation, but if that works for you, then go for it because this country is just perking along really well eh? As Dr Phil says "how is this working for you?"....

                    #4.6 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 2:32 AM EDT
                    danapointdaddy

                    same trough, different pigs...

                    _______________________________________________________

                    Same shoe, different foot!

                    I do agree that we have become paralized as a nation due to the polarization of the two parties, and that is OUR fault for not holding ALL elected leaders, even of your OWN PARTY accountable for not working together for the good of the COUNTRY not their party! It does your children no good to grow up in a country where half hates the other half just due to party affiliation, but if that works for you, then go for it because this country is just perking along really well eh? As Dr Phil says "how is this working for you?"....

                      #4.7 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 11:16 AM EDT
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                      Dylan923

                      Beck brought down van jones

                      Bull@!$%#, Van Jones brought down Van Jones.

                      Beck will bring them all to light and make all the other actual 'investigative journalist' look like the commentators that they really are....

                      Glenn Beck will do exactly what he's told to do by his superiors and nothing more. Or can you show me where Beck has actually been in the field doing all this investigative journalism work? Funny that you say this because I don't ever recall Christine Amapour being a commentator, she's always a "FEATURE" when her pieces air. Investigative journalists aren't commentators, they're field reporters. Or when did Bob Woodward ever serve as a commentator while he was still an active journalist? Carl Bernstein?Cami McCormick, although acnchoring some newscasts on radio, has nvere been a commentator in any capacity.

                      Glenn Beck wouldn't make a pimple on a good investigative journalists ass.

                      • 19 votes
                      Reply#5 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 12:49 PM EDT
                      Zanyzazu

                      Obama???? No.....Jones. That one was too easy...I would slow down a bit if I were you....no on second thought....probably not....you are believing the silly stuff...and passing on the truth.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#6 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:02 PM EDT
                      reamworks

                      I don't like Glenn Beck because he's a member of the "Mormon" cult.

                      HOWEVER, he was 100% correct in this case. Barack Obama's Affirmative-Action friend, Van Jones, apparently believes that "the Jews" were responsible for 9/11. It's important that a dangerous person like this not be a white house advisor.

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#7 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:03 PM EDT
                      Sol-Badguy

                      I don't like Glenn Beck because he's a member of the "Mormon" cult.

                      Ladies and gentlemen, the 2012 GOP presidential candidate...Mitt Romney!

                      • 10 votes
                      #7.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:04 PM EDT
                      oneforall

                      BBC NEWS: September 18, 2001

                      Bin Laden left Saudi Arabia in 1979 to fight against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

                      The Afghan jihad was backed with American dollars and had the blessing of the governments of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

                      He received security training from the CIA itself, according to Middle Eastern analyst Hazhir Teimourian.

                      Most reliable sources believe Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years now. The U.S. should stop searching for a ghost and they should bring the troops home now. It is ill-advised to engage in combat with those whom you have trained in special forces tactics on their home turf.

                      • 1 vote
                      #7.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:23 PM EDT
                      veegee-789203

                      Glenn Beck wouldn't make a pimple on a good investigative journalists ass.

                      Yep, probably right, but since we have not SEEN a good investigative journalist in a couple decades now (hmmm since Watergate I believe), they are all too lazy to really, REALLY dig on stories now, want it handed to them---Beck, O'Reilly, Olberman, Dobbs, Matthews are apparently heir apparents...and they are all OPINION commentators, not journalists!

                      WHERE were the good investigative journalists when Bush was lying thru his teeth about Iraq being directly involved in 9-11, and the WMD? Where are they now with groups like ACORN and Obama's much more "radical" leanings on governing? WHERE WHERE WHERE?????

                      Snoozing under some tree apparently waiting for someone else to break the story for them!

                      • 3 votes
                      #7.3 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 2:42 AM EDT
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                      mudfloper

                      I can not believe you truly consider Beck a reporter of any credentials.

                      That man should have been sued a 1000 times over for his lies.

                      May he eat from the dish he serves his guests on......

                      He's lower than whale doodie...

                      • 9 votes
                      Reply#8 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:15 PM EDT
                      NYPeach

                      He's lower than whale doodie...

                      He'd still be looking down on libs, Van Jones and obama!

                      • 13 votes
                      #8.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
                      Madison From NY

                      Mud,

                      If Beck is that low, where do you rate the Moveon.org "activists" called upon by Obama?

                      • 13 votes
                      #8.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:07 PM EDT
                      EllieP

                      Regardless, Madison, you got the title correct. This weekend's biggest rout wasn't Kentucky's shut out of Miami of Ohio, it was Glenn Beck over TeamObama.

                      • 15 votes
                      #8.3 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 4:51 PM EDT
                      Sol-Badguy

                      Actually, I'm thinking Tennessee's win was more one-sided, but sure. Glenn Beck really put it to Obama.

                      It's convenient that no one bothers to mention all the times Keith Olbermann called Bush out on the carpet.

                      • 8 votes
                      #8.4 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:04 PM EDT
                      Dylan923

                      Actually, I'm thinking Tennessee's win was more one-sided, but sure.

                      Yeah HOW BOUT THEM VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Phil Fulmer was great while it lasted, but now we have Lane Kiffin and more importantly, his defensive genius of a father. Look for us to be in the hunt right out of the gate this year!!

                      • 5 votes
                      #8.5 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:41 PM EDT
                      Sol-Badguy

                      psssh. You're in the SEC. You're Florida's appetizer.

                      Now Texas, that's a school that's going all the way.

                      • 4 votes
                      #8.6 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:56 PM EDT
                      Dylan923

                      Yeah I'm in the SEC, when was the last time an IVY LEAGUE school won a National Championship? When was the last time Cornell won ANYTHING?

                      • 2 votes
                      #8.7 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 6:17 PM EDT
                      Sol-Badguy

                      Perhaps if you follow lacrosse, you'd know that Cornell lost in the championship game in overtime to juggernaut Syracuse. Cornell has also earned consecutive berths to men's March Madness, and is poised to do the same this year. Cornell's men's hockey team is also one of the best in the nation. Harvard won the Intercollegiate Rowing Association Championships in 2003, 2004, 2005, and on the women's side, Harvard and Brown won the 2003 and 2004 NCAA Rowing Championships, respectively. Additionally, Cornell's men's lightweight team won back to back to back IRA National Championships in 2006, 2007 and 2008. Sure, rowing is not that interesting, or popular, but I was just making a point. The Ivy League schools are also very competitive in both men's and women's hockey. Also, comparing a public university to a private university in terms of athletics or academia is terribly one-sided. My favorite public university is Texas, I've been a fan since I was little, if my 40-yard dash were a couple tenths of a second faster, I'd be playing football there. But alas, that was ne'er to be, so here I am at Cornell. And aside from women's basketball, Tennessee has been rather lackluster in the athletic realm as of late.

                      • 2 votes
                      #8.8 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:10 PM EDT
                      vol fan in chatt, tn

                      hey Dylan. I didn't know you were a VOL fan? Looking good (at least better this year). Fulmer was a good guy but past his prime, IMHO. Besides, Lane is smoking! Keep in touch and let me know how your doing - moving to Wyoming, are you?

                      • 3 votes
                      #8.9 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:13 PM EDT
                      Dylan923

                      Man I was born at Nashville General back then and went to Maplewood High School, then to UT.

                      Lane and his daddy are gonna get it going on...............

                      • 2 votes
                      #8.10 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 12:40 AM EDT
                      Beverly H

                      Here's the thing nobody objects to looking in someone elses closet, unless the closet they look in is theirs, face it there are a lot of closets to check out since this president has taken office, the thing is if the left would have opened their eyes instead of their legs, no one would be getting screwed.

                      • 2 votes
                      #8.11 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 2:09 AM EDT
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                      Sol-Badguy

                      Let me attempt to offer some closure to this debacle. Glenn Beck was the vehicle by which Van Jones was brought down. For that, and only that, kudos are in order. A team of unpaid college interns were probably scouring the internet and databases for weeks in order to provide Beck with his material. Kudos to them for their work behind the scenes. But let's not give out undue accolades. The team of interns should not be credited with enlightening the American populace of Van Jones' shady past through their collective charismata, and Glenn Beck should not be credited with actually going out and digging up these facts himself. He reads off of teleprompters in a very convincing manner. So does Keith Olbermann. But neither of them are investigative journalists. They're just puppets of a larger force at work.

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#9 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:09 PM EDT
                      Dylan923

                      The team of interns should not be credited with enlightening the American populace of Van Jones' shady past through their collective charismata

                      This is a great post, however the interns mentioned do deserve recognition for their work. Glenn Beck is no investigative journalist by any stretch of the imagination and interns are in all reality not the only ones working on his show. While Glenn Beck is the mouthpiece for presenting the material, his hands are pretty much tied as to what actually does and does not get on.

                      • 6 votes
                      #9.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:16 PM EDT
                      Mary-268849

                      Certainly neither is the White House...their vetting process sucks!!!

                      • 2 votes
                      #9.2 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 12:22 PM EDT
                      AZPADDY

                      Sol-Badguy

                      I've been following the back and forth of your comments, and I've gotta tell ya....you're arguing with the resident population of "Idiot America".

                      I'm sure you're aware of that, and it can be entertaining for a while but in the end it becomes apparent the residents of Idiot America only dig their heels in deeper in the face of facts, and after that, it's akin to arguing with an ass. I've been a newsvine member for about 8 months and prior to that, I rarely heard or read anything re Glenn Beck, Saul Olinsky (?), or a lot of the issues and people that comprise the bulk of the chatter here on Newsvine.

                      Good for you in your ability to secure a full ride in an Ivy League school. You are right to be proud of that and need not apologize for answering the question in the context you did.

                      BTW, corporate America does indeed lack the ability to see beyond the next two quarterly profit reports. Money in and of itself has no conscience, and those who place their faith in money, like the nation did with the GWB administration, are living in the aftermath of that fact today.

                      • 2 votes
                      #9.3 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 2:55 PM EDT
                      SBVORDeleted
                      AZPADDY

                      Put your jerked knee back in place SBVOR, I was obviously referring to the passage in the bible that admonishes one to "not argue with an ass". The "ass" is, of course, an animal well known for its hardheadedness and refusal to act, even in its own interest.

                      • 1 vote
                      #9.5 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 4:14 PM EDT
                      SBVORDeleted
                      AZPADDY

                      SBVOR

                      I neglected to ask for your VISA or immigration card. You do need one when entering mainstream USA from I.A.

                      • 1 vote
                      #9.7 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 4:24 PM EDT
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                      greg-709692

                      Beck = Champion of the people (Winner)

                      Van Jones = Left Wing Nut (Proven Loser)

                      Obama = Clueless or Doesn't care.

                      • 13 votes
                      Reply#10 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:26 PM EDT
                      Sol-Badguy

                      Stereotypes and cloud generalizations for the WIN!

                      • 10 votes
                      #10.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:56 PM EDT
                      greg-709692

                      Hard to argue his own words and spin it like it's taken out of context, wouldn't you say.

                      Van Jones showed his leanings and hate twice this year alone!

                      • 11 votes
                      #10.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:02 PM EDT
                      WaterDog1

                      Sol....

                      go study and read your books.

                      Greg-707692: right on my friend.

                      • 4 votes
                      #10.3 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 11:42 AM EDT
                      greg-709692

                      @ WaterDog;

                      A lot of scary folks out there that try to get you to believe something other than the man's own words!

                      • 3 votes
                      #10.4 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 11:46 AM EDT
                      economics101

                      Hi fives aside, Beck is a far right extremist, and as someone who is left wing, I would declare Obama pretty much Center right ..... but thats maybe why he's both a socialist commie and a facist nazi (=center right) where beck is pretty much just a fascist nazi (authoritarian right)??

                        #10.5 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 11:50 AM EDT
                        EllieP

                        econ101, Beck is a libertarian. How do you get authoritarian out of that? He's criticizing communists (who are completely authoritarian).

                        • 5 votes
                        #10.6 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 11:54 AM EDT
                        greg-709692

                        Same as they try to do to O'Reilly and Boortz Ellie.

                        When they don't agree, change their political affiliation to justify the Lefts rants.

                        Anybody that disagree's with the Left, must be right wing.

                        Kind of makes 80% of the nation right wing.

                        • 5 votes
                        #10.7 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 11:56 AM EDT
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                        DanaR-1273622

                        While Beck calls himself a commentator, what he has done is accumulate and present the facts about van jones, his statements and his associations with some pretty bad groups.

                        So Beck in airing and presenting these facts is to be respected for his courage, especially after those on the left went on a personal attack against Beck.

                        He stood by his guns, and kept up the pressure. The end result is van jones is gone, and the American people have won.

                        Good article.

                        • 16 votes
                        Reply#11 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:29 PM EDT
                        Sol-Badguy

                        what he has done is accumulate and present the facts about van jones,

                        Present, yes. Accumulate, no.

                        • 5 votes
                        #11.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 2:56 PM EDT
                        Kim-298921

                        Note that DanaR capitalizes Beck, but will not capitalize Van Jones' name. Nor Obama's.

                        P-a-t-h-e-t-i-c.

                        • 7 votes
                        #11.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 6:47 PM EDT
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                        Patriotic Dissenter

                        Van Jones only strengthens the argument that BO has no real leadership abilities. Instead of canning his ass the minute Jones' mushmouth ravings were brought to light, Obama stays silent and waits until Jones resigns. Why? A real leader would have seen that Jones' irate and irrational views would not only bring a cloud upon his adminstration, thereby eroding precious credibility, Jones could have also hurt the green jobs movement. by his assinine comments. But, the gutless, clueless leader that BO really is, BO decides to wait and wait until Jones makes the first move. Sure, BO might have forced the issue; however, a leader worth his weight would have taken the inititive and cut loose Jones and leave no doubt that it was the POTUS that doesn't stand for this garbage. Add this to BO's pathetic and absent leadership during healthcare, the stimulus bill and it can be seen that BO is best when in a community agitation position instead of one of leadership.

                        P.S. What about the transperency? Just as BO was never vetted, it appears he doesn't vet his czars neither. But why would he? Czars aren't appointed by congress and answers only to the Chiarman. So why would BO even care? That is the Chicago way. BO is a trainwreck masquerading as a serious political leader. 2012 looks sweeter and sweeter everytime BO shows his "leadership" abilities.

                        • 11 votes
                        Reply#12 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:00 PM EDT
                        Madison From NY

                        I sincerely hope the Jones incident reported by Beck, and the resulting Jones resignation and reporting of some of the underlying facts in the main stream media, opens up many eyes about Obama, his Administration and their agenda.

                        • 16 votes
                        #12.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:19 PM EDT
                        Dylan923

                        Madison from NY,

                        I agree with you and do believe people are starting to wake up. However, I'm afraid that many will simply follow this guy like sheep even with the truth about him and his agenda slapping them across the face at every corner. They simply refuse to see the forest for the trees, know what I mean?

                        "BLINDED BY THE OBAMA LIGHT OF DECEPTION"

                        • 10 votes
                        #12.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:23 PM EDT
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                        economics101

                        Starting to wake up .... Americans are conned by a media that likely inadvertantly gets it right about once a decade - that incluldes Fox news .... if you rely upon anything on the TV for information you are pretty much out to lunch. Personally the only thing that I find useful on the TV is my daughters favorite show South Park - since it seems to have a pretty good following, I think there is some hope for the future!

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#13 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:29 PM EDT
                        john-1205479

                        What a great article. When I heard that Van Jones had quit today I did a little happy dance in my livingroom. Beck rules I can hardly wait to see what czar he will be going after next I just know these czars are doing everything they can to try and cover up their radical pasts. What a great victory for Beck I wonder if the boycott is finished too. I wonder how the advertisers that pulled ads off glenns show are feeling now that the guy who founded color of change just quit because he is the radical, racist, 9/11 truther

                        • 8 votes
                        Reply#14 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:41 PM EDT
                        Sol-Badguy

                        I've been told by an inside source that Beck will be going after Alexei Mikhailovich Romanov in his next series. Tsar hunting at its finest.

                        • 7 votes
                        #14.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:43 PM EDT
                        john-1205479

                        I think he will be sticking with Obamas czars, and unlike stimulus checks he will be going to the ones that are alive

                        • 6 votes
                        #14.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 4:07 PM EDT
                        john-1205479

                        I wonder who they will try and blame for how this radical ever got hired in the first place.

                        • 6 votes
                        #14.3 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 4:18 PM EDT
                        Dylan923

                        I wonder who they will try and blame for how this radical ever got hired in the first place.

                        Oh hell that's an easy one. They're going to blame Bush as usual, it was all Bush's fault.

                        • 5 votes
                        #14.4 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:42 PM EDT
                        coalbear_1

                        Heck no, it was Bill's fault.

                          #14.5 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 8:47 PM EDT
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                          SovalDeleted
                          DonkeyRidder

                          The fight isn't over. It is America (Beck) 1, Obama 34. The next big play is health care. Beck is one of the few government overseers still in operation.

                          • 3 votes
                          #16 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:57 PM EDT
                          john-1205479

                          I wouldn't be surprised if mark loyld tried to make a move next against Beck and FOX before they can continue to shine light on this administration. This story is going to be on fire next week I can hardly wait to see gibbs squirm to get out of this one

                          • 8 votes
                          #16.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 4:04 PM EDT
                          dar63

                          This story is going to be on fire next week I can hardly wait to see gibbs squirm to get out of this one

                          I am personally looking forward to that myself....maybe I'll make popcorn. This administration is akin to a bad movie.

                          • 9 votes
                          #16.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 4:07 PM EDT
                          Madison From NY

                          Would be kind of nice if the Obama administration disclosed the full CVs of these czars as part of "transparency."

                          On the upside, without Obama and Co.'s constant misstatements, omissions and disruptive attacks on anyone opposing them, investigative reporting wouldn't be so much fun.

                          • 8 votes
                          #16.3 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 4:24 PM EDT
                          Sol-Badguy

                          The whole concept of digging up dirt on Presidents and their appointees is a rather new concept for Republicans. It's old hat for us Democrats. After a while, you'll find out that no one listens or really cares. Democrats were raising Cain about Bush's connections in 2004. Kerry still got drummed. You learn to live with it. Enjoy it for the moment, but the novelty wears off after a while, like that new toy firetruck you got for Christmas.

                          • 8 votes
                          #16.4 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 4:34 PM EDT
                          DonkeyRidder

                          but the novelty wears off after a while

                          You are correct. The novelty of a black President is passé. However, the novelty of a Marxist President is still a source of controversy.

                          • 7 votes
                          #16.5 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 4:54 PM EDT
                          Sol-Badguy

                          the novelty of a Marxist President is still a source of controversy.

                          Newsflash: There is no such thing as a Marxist president. Marxists are egalitarian purists. They believe that the will of the people is sovereign. We are still a capitalist society. We cannot have a Marxist president. It's impossible. Get serious.

                          • 6 votes
                          #16.6 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:06 PM EDT
                          EllieP

                          Except that Marxism is a transition of sorts to socialism. Gotta start where you are.

                          • 12 votes
                          #16.7 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:11 PM EDT
                          Kim-298921

                          Except that Marxism is a transition of sorts to socialism.

                          I simply don't believe someone took the time to write this remark down and then share with the world.

                          :::::rolls eyes:::

                          • 6 votes
                          #16.8 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:32 PM EDT
                          Dylan923

                          Would be kind of nice if the Obama administration disclosed the full CVs of these czars as part of "transparency."

                          They aren't going to disclose ANYTHING they think will tarnish the already overinflated popularity of this self serving administration.

                          • 8 votes
                          #16.9 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:44 PM EDT
                          DonkeyRidder

                          There is no such thing as a Marxist president. Marxists are egalitarian purists.

                          Now that is just plain dumb. We have a Marxist President. He just hasn't been able to make America Marxist, yet. The President can have any personal ideology if the voters are dumb enough to vote him in. And Newsflash for you, there has never been a Marxist state that believes the will of the people is sovereign, and in fact those Marxist states kill the people that have that belief.

                          • 8 votes
                          #16.10 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 6:06 PM EDT
                          Sol-Badguy

                          Agh, teh stoopid, it burnzes mah eyes! Obama couldn't make California Marxist if his life depended on it. Marxist ideology believes in a STATELESS SOCIETY. HOW THE HELL CAN YOU HAVE A STATELESS SOCIETY BY EXPANDING THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT? Think real hard for like 2 seconds.

                          and in fact those Marxist states kill the people that have that belief.

                          I assume that you're referring to the Soviet Union, which was Marxist in name only. That was a totalitarian communist dictatorship. If the USSR was truly Marxist, then Josep Stalin would not have turned the state into a cult of worship. Which, again, goes to prove that the USSR was not a Marxist state, because in Marxism there is NO STATE. The Soviet Union had the largest government known to mankind. Not Marxist. It's readily evident that you haven't read Das Kapital.

                          • 6 votes
                          #16.11 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:27 PM EDT
                          DonkeyRidder

                          All Marxist states are Marxist in name only. That's what I said. Since it requires a murderous totalitarian dictator to impose and enforce communism upon the people, there can be no true Marxist utopia. But it works well to get to that totalitarian dictatorship, which is what the ruling elite dictator wannabes are after, using the Marxist promise of wealth redistribution and free everything to the huddled masses.

                          Go try to act intelligent somewhere else, maybe in a government school with small kids, where you might know more than your target audience. It doesn't matter what you've read, it became jumbled gobbledygook on entering that head.

                          • 2 votes
                          #16.12 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:08 PM EDT
                          Sol-Badguy

                          *double facepalm*

                          Since it requires a murderous totalitarian dictator to impose and enforce communism upon the people, there can be no true Marxist utopia.

                          I seriously hope that you are not comparing Obama to a murderous totalitarian dictator. Please tell me that society has not sunk that low.

                          which is what the ruling elite dictator wannabes are after, using the Marxist promise of wealth redistribution and free everything to the huddled masses.

                          Oh, so Obama is a ruling Marxist elite dictator wannabe, not a murderous totalitarian dictator? I can live with that. *sarcasm*

                          Go try to act intelligent somewhere else, maybe in a government school with small kids, where you might know more than your target audience.

                          Ugh. I'm not even bringing up my lofty credentials again. Look at my debacle with Dylan923 if you want proof of my intelligence. And by the way, intelligence is entirely defined by book smarts. Having common sense does not make you intelligent. Having wisdom does not make you intelligent. If you have more wisdom and/or common sense than I (which I'm willing to concede for the sake of this argument), I'm still smarter than you are.

                          It doesn't matter what you've read, it became jumbled gobbledygook on entering that head.

                          Genesis 1:27: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them"

                          My interpretation: "So god created a monkey, who then went forth to evolution gay marriage, male and male he created them"

                          But surely one with such a politically neutral name as "DonkeyRidder" would tell nothing but absolute truths.

                          • 3 votes
                          #16.13 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:32 PM EDT
                          DARKESTDONNIE

                          Having common sense does not make you intelligent. Having wisdom does not make you intelligent. If you have more wisdom and/or common sense than I (which I'm willing to concede for the sake of this argument), I'm still smarter than you are.

                          Genius borders insanity!

                          • 5 votes
                          #16.14 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 10:23 PM EDT
                          DonkeyRidder

                          Liberals by definition don't use smarts. They are touchy/feely, annoyingly so.

                          I don't care about your credentials. Obama was handed a fistful of them and he's a dope.

                          • 6 votes
                          #16.15 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 10:42 PM EDT
                          Sol-Badguy

                          Liberals by definition don't use smarts.

                          Oh yes, pardon me, I forgot, conservatives have the monopoly on intelligence. Carry on.

                          They are touchy/feely,

                          This statement in no way, shape or form describes the fanatic Christian right-wing. Continue.

                          I don't care about your credentials.

                          Then why go out of your way to state this?

                          Obama was handed a fistful of them

                          Last time I checked, they weren't raffling off advanced degrees at Harvard.

                          and he's a dope.

                          *facepalm* But Sarah Palin is Jesus Incarnate, and Michelle Bachmann her loyal High Prophetess.

                          • 3 votes
                          #16.16 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:23 PM EDT
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                          SBVORDeleted
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                          Glenn Beck wouldn't know the truth if it strolled up and kicked him in the balls. Ofcourse it the truth did that it would break Madison for NY's jaw.

                          • 8 votes
                          Reply#19 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 5:58 PM EDT
                          DonkeyRidder

                          They'd have to kick a jar in your boyfriend's pantry to get to your balls.

                          • 1 vote
                          #19.1 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 11:54 AM EDT
                          PanhandleMike

                          They'd have to kick a jar in your boyfriend's pantry to get to your balls.

                          They make jars that small? I bet they're mixed in with the miniature marshmallows or in a small bag of Raisinets.

                          • 1 vote
                          #19.2 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 8:54 AM EDT
                          Reply
                          R. Donald Snyder

                          What I don't understand is why anyone cares if Van Jones resigned in the first place. The whole thing was much ado about nothing from the beginning. A tempest in a teapot.

                          • 12 votes
                          Reply#20 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 6:03 PM EDT
                          DonkeyRidder

                          That's what someone who doesn't understand America would say.

                          • 8 votes
                          #20.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 6:09 PM EDT
                          R. Donald Snyder

                          You do realize, don't you, that your reply makes no sense whatsoever?

                          • 11 votes
                          #20.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 6:52 PM EDT
                          JustMee

                          Surely Shakespeare you "jest".....this situation is past serious.

                          • 4 votes
                          #20.3 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:20 PM EDT
                          Sol-Badguy

                          that's what someone who doesn't understand America would say.

                          Holy crap. You can't argue with that logic.

                          • 6 votes
                          #20.4 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:28 PM EDT
                          DonkeyRidder

                          You could, but you'd still lose if logic was involved in your thought processes. But you still might try it some time, see how logic works for you.

                          You do realize, don't you, that your reply makes no sense whatsoever?

                          RDS, I was just pointing out that there is a greater component to your inability to understanding at play.

                          • 4 votes
                          #20.5 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:15 PM EDT
                          R. Donald Snyder

                          Um.....OK.....but your original comment still makes so sense. It had no logic to it as a response to my post.

                          • 7 votes
                          #20.6 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:23 PM EDT
                          R. Donald Snyder

                          Holy crap. You can't argue with that logic.

                          I know. It reminds me of the scene in Blazing Saddles where Gabby Johnson makes a complete gibberish speech and Olson Johnson says "Now who could argue with that? I think we're all indebt to Gabby Johnson for stating what needed to be said. I am particulary glad that these lovely children are here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, it expressed the courage little seen in this day and age." lol

                          • 6 votes
                          #20.7 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:31 PM EDT
                          DonkeyRidder

                          The people who the comment was directed at got it. You keep working on it Costello.

                          • 1 vote
                          #20.8 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:15 PM EDT
                          R. Donald Snyder

                          Um...the comment was directed at me, since it was a response to something I posted and therefore it makes no sense. Unless of course you just wander the blogs posting unrelated bull@!$%# just to see your name online. Now THAT would make sense. Certainly more sense then your response to my post. If you just want to post random crap that has nothing to do with the post you're responding to, then you should post a separate post and not attached your garbage stuff to another's post. It just makes you look silly and childish and like a troll.

                          Post like an adult.

                          • 7 votes
                          #20.9 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 2:38 AM EDT
                          DonkeyRidder

                          If it's okay, and if not, I'll post the way I please. Quit your croaking and move along.

                          • 1 vote
                          #20.10 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:35 PM EDT
                          Reply
                          carlsondean

                          I love it! People disagreeing. What is more American? "A tempest In A Tea Pot?" "Much ado about nothing?" How about a self proclaimed Communist.. as a Green Czar? "How about the Czar of FCC...being a x-Weatherman"? How about? Wow! Now I know why my German relatives warned me about the "much ado about nothing crowd.

                          • 4 votes
                          Reply#21 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 6:27 PM EDT
                          R. Donald Snyder

                          So?

                          • 4 votes
                          #21.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:24 PM EDT
                          Reply
                          RWE

                          Good riddance to Van Jones, but he is only a good start. There is a snake pit of radicals,

                          socialists, marxists, racists, & revolutionaries, known to us as Czars, and advisors.

                          Van Jones radical organization Apollo Alliance, & SEIU need to turn in their keys to the White

                          House also.

                          This is what Omama calls The Most Transparent Administration In History.

                          More like invisible until Glenn Beck brought these radicals into the open.

                          Obama should be held accountable, he knows the background of all these radicals.

                          • 7 votes
                          Reply#22 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 6:30 PM EDT
                          JustMee

                          You are right on with your comments...my husband and I totally agree....

                          • 4 votes
                          #22.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:17 PM EDT
                          Reply
                          JustMee

                          GO GLENN BECK....Obama's administration is corrupt to the core...Obama's campaigning displayed these facts, but certain Americans decided to vote him into our highest office anyway...shame on those Americans. You guys had better start paying attention and let's take our country back from these pro-communists.

                          • 5 votes
                          Reply#23 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:16 PM EDT
                          Sol-Badguy

                          let's take our country back from these pro-communists.

                          No more stupid! Please! I can't take anymore!

                          • 7 votes
                          #23.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:29 PM EDT
                          WaterDog1

                          If you can't take it anymore, then why not just go somewhere else. Staying here and arguing your "educated" opinions is STUPID.

                          Since the one thing you can't fix is Stupid, I suggest you leave.

                          • 2 votes
                          #23.2 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 1:02 PM EDT
                          Sol-Badguy

                          If you can't take it anymore, then why not just go somewhere else.

                          Since the one thing you can't fix is Stupid, I suggest you leave.

                          You're admitting that this string of right-wing railing is stupid, then.

                          • 2 votes
                          #23.3 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 1:47 PM EDT
                          Reply
                          JustMee

                          If the Republicans had any intestinal fortitude they would call for Obama's resignation..., but there are too many moderate or left leaning Republicans....Conservatives continue to stand up and continue praying with Glenn Beck.

                          • 2 votes
                          #24 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:19 PM EDT
                          Sol-Badguy

                          Groups that the GOP has successfully alienated:

                          Blacks: check

                          Hispanics: check

                          Asians: check

                          Young voters: check

                          Moderates: check

                          Conservatives continue to stand up and continue praying with Glenn Beck.

                          Anyone not Christian: check

                          but there are too many moderate or left leaning Republicans

                          Anyone not crazy: check

                          Now, from that remaining demographic, you need to pick up 270 electoral votes. Have fun!

                          • 7 votes
                          #24.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:31 PM EDT
                          Madison From NY

                          Sol,

                          Obama & Co. have generated opposition from many, many students and young people, who voted for Obama in their first/ one of their first Presidential elections.

                          I do not believe this is democrat vs. republican, but rather, liberal vs. conservative.

                          And I don't believe the other groups you mentioned are too thrilled with Obama & Co. either.

                          We need to research and consider the records of each and every one of our so-called representatives before we vote in 2010 and 2012. I hope and believe we will see many, many new faces.

                          • 9 votes
                          #24.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:57 PM EDT
                          Sol-Badguy

                          And I don't believe the other groups you mentioned are too thrilled with Obama & Co. either.

                          *facepalm*

                          Sure, sure. Okay. Yeah, African-Americans and Hispanics are absolutely disgusted by Obama's work at this point. The young vote is calling for his head. Asians are switching their allegiances as we speak. Moderates are taking up arms and fleeing to the comforting bosom of Rush Limbaugh. Muslims are pouring out in droves in support of the tolerant right-wing fringe.

                          *double facepalm*

                          Please, please put the Kool-aid down.

                          • 5 votes
                          #24.3 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 9:32 PM EDT
                          vol fan in chatt, tn

                          Groups that the GOP has successfully alienated:

                          cmmies: check

                          • 4 votes
                          #24.4 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:21 PM EDT
                          Sol-Badguy

                          Oh yes all 62 million of the commies that came out to vote for Obama. All of those minority commies, those young commies, those educated commies, those moderate commies, those rational commies, those intellectual conservative commies, those left-leaning conservative commies, all those damn commies, the GOP darn tootin' right sure got rid o' them right quick now. We's can wins election in 2012 if'n we alienate some more commies.

                          • 4 votes
                          #24.5 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:27 PM EDT
                          Olivia-1008092

                          Blacks voted for him because he was black. That's about 40 million right there and millions of illegal hispanics. Funny, my mom's a resident alien that came here legally and SHE can't vote after 45 years. But some fly by night Mexican (who will have another alias next week can). Add in the white apologists that hate themselves and feel guilt for things they never did, and watch too much TV.But I know, to hell with citizens and legalities and due process. Let's not forget that Obama never took the oath to uphold to the Constitution. he is so well spoken but can't repeat a brief paragraph, and the next one no one on earth has any coverage or recording of. It all is crap. Add this to his crazy America hating "czars" that are illegal, and I don't have much enthusiam for President 23.5 billion for nothing at all in return.

                          And if you agree with his policies you are communist leaning. His mother was a radical communist. BTW, the population of the country is about 305 million. Looks like another rigged election to me, rigged by the people that are vested in the ruination and destruction of America's sovereignty.

                          So I guess broadcasting nightly news from inside the White House as with ABC is pure objectivity, huh? No bias at ALL there, eh?

                          • 1 vote
                          #24.6 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 3:37 AM EDT
                          Sol-Badguy

                          Blacks voted for him because he was black. That's about 40 million right there

                          Uh huh. Blacks composed 13% of the voting population. About 130 million people voted. 13% of 130 million is not 40 million.

                          • 7 votes
                          #24.7 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:21 AM EDT
                          blaze1024

                          Uh huh. Blacks composed 13% of the voting population. About 130 million people voted. 13% of 130 million is not 40 million.

                          Yup more of that funny right wing math

                          Besides don't you know, Glen Beck fanatics would never let facts get in the way of a good delusion or conspiracy theory.

                          • 5 votes
                          #24.8 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:26 AM EDT
                          MotorcycleEmptiness

                          Why don't these people just get it over with and demand Glenn Beck run for president?

                          An investigative journalist. Such a lofty accolade should not be bestowed on such a lying toad of a man.

                          • 4 votes
                          #24.9 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 8:02 AM EDT
                          AZPADDY

                          In a straight up match against Obama, Beck wouldn't even make it out of the starting blocks. Real talent vs. staged talent.

                          Beck has succommed to the age old celebrity killer:

                          He believes his own press releases.

                          • 1 vote
                          #24.10 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 1:15 AM EDT
                          DonkeyRidder

                          Oh yes all 62 million of the commies that came out to vote for Obama.

                          Commies, the few, and dummies, the many, carried Obama. Not everyone should vote. Dummies and commies should stay home.

                            #24.11 - Tue Sep 8, 2009 3:36 PM EDT
                            AZPADDY

                            D.R.

                            When you comment like that, which is often, I picture you as an old crotchety crank, like those two crabby old men in "The Muppett Show".

                            Only....you're not funny.

                              #24.12 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 1:30 AM EDT
                              economics101

                              DR,

                              Commies, the few, and dummies, the many, carried Obama. Not everyone should vote. Dummies and commies should stay home.

                              Actually, none should stay home. telling people not to vote is the bane of democracy ... we ve seen lower and lower voter turnouts in recent years because its been two rich ambulance chasing scumbags trying to divide up our tax dollars to one group of rich scumbags who supported them - frankly who cares .... Until people realize that they have the power to demand something better than crooks and clowns, weasels and perverts, that's exactly what we will get, and what we will deserve. Just cause it doesn't turn out the way you want it doesn't mean the process is bad.

                              In colonial new England they said:

                              "If you give up a little liberty to get a little security, you will lose both and deserve neither"

                              More relevent today than ever ....

                              • 1 vote
                              #24.13 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 2:19 AM EDT
                              DonkeyRidder

                              When you comment like that, which is often, I picture you as an old crotchety crank, like those two crabby old men in "The Muppett Show".

                              I hope you are picturing me with my clothes on. You are funny, at best.

                                #24.14 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 9:45 AM EDT
                                AZPADDY

                                What a weak comeback. Nice try......

                                • 1 vote
                                #24.15 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 10:56 AM EDT
                                DonkeyRidder

                                Actually, none should stay home. telling people not to vote is the bane of democracy

                                I stand by my assessment. Ignorant people should not vote. Urging ignorant people to vote is certain doom.

                                AZDADDY, you're still funny even though mean-spirited. Put the clothes back on your imaginary characters.

                                • 1 vote
                                #24.16 - Wed Sep 9, 2009 1:44 PM EDT
                                AZPADDY

                                YOU call me mean-spirited?

                                That's a laugh! Since you've gone there, take a read of your own comments. D.R.

                                They are among the most mean-spirited on Newsvine.

                                I.M.O.

                                • 1 vote
                                #24.17 - Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:53 PM EDT
                                Reply
                                krounded

                                Some folks resign when they feel their past statements are causing undue distraction.

                                Others stay on indefinitely, despite their bad decisions and actual policy.

                                • 4 votes
                                Reply#25 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:20 PM EDT
                                Sol-Badguy

                                Some folks resign when they feel their past statements are causing undue distraction.

                                Nixon!

                                Others stay on indefinitely, despite their bad decisions and actual policy.

                                Bush!

                                • 10 votes
                                #25.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:32 PM EDT
                                krounded

                                Nixon was unusual as he was elected. He also actually did something wrong too.

                                I'm thinking more of the unelected folks that serve at the pleasure of others. (ahhrremm....Rumsfield)

                                Nice call though Sol!

                                I suppose some folks will want to throw Clinton in here. That's OK. Just remember, National interests and policy were not being crafted with a cigar under that desk.

                                • 4 votes
                                #25.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:56 PM EDT
                                Lola-984242

                                I suppose some folks will want to throw Clinton in here. That's OK. Just remember, National interests and policy were not being crafted with a cigar under that desk.

                                I'll never understand the relevance of that whole debacle. Who the hell cared? Oh yeah, the moral republicans with all their family values, one of which was cheating on his wife while she was in the hospital battling cancer.

                                • 5 votes
                                #25.3 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:08 PM EDT
                                krounded

                                Oh yeah, the moral republicans with all their family values, one of which was cheating on his wife while she was in the hospital battling cancer.

                                Some Republicans have C Street to cleanse their souls. It costs them $90,000 but hey, that's the cost of a clean soul I guess. Remember John Edwards did this too though. The only difference is that Dems don't run around tear others apart for their sins and trespasses.

                                For some reason, it's OK if a Republican does it.

                                What happened to the normal Republicans?

                                • 4 votes
                                #25.4 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:20 PM EDT
                                Lola-984242

                                Remember John Edwards did this too though. The only difference is that Dems don't run around tear others apart for their sins and trespasses.

                                Oh yes, Edwards did it too, and I personally think he's a piece of sh!t for doing so. But he wasn't trying to have the President impeached while he was having his affair. Could you imagine the screaming and gun toting republicans if something like that happened?

                                • 5 votes
                                #25.5 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 9:29 PM EDT
                                Sol-Badguy

                                Ok, so Billy gets his d@ck wet while throwing together some legislation. So what? European premiers have mistresses, and it's perfectly acceptable in the eyes of their respective societies.

                                This is Sarkozy's former wife - the one he had before he married his mistress

                                http://lh3.ggpht.com/fisherwy/R9BAcERCLHI/AAAAAAAANws/1btiQMpFbUY/Nicolas+Sarkozy+second+wife+Celilia+Cecilia+CiganQ-Albeniz+photo%5B3%5D

                                This is Sarkozy's current wife, his former mistress

                                http://www.vipwallpaper.com/data/media/476/Carla_Bruni_004.jpg

                                He went to London with his new wife (Carla Bruni) to go market nude pictures of her most recent photo shoot. And they were both greeted by the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh.

                                But America is the land of Jesus, where everyone is Christian and acts with Christian values and Christian love for their neighbor.

                                • 5 votes
                                #25.6 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 9:39 PM EDT
                                krounded

                                But he wasn't trying to have the President impeached while he was having his affair.

                                That would be Newt Gingrich. Creepity ole creep. How do these people get past a mirror without barfing?

                                • 3 votes
                                #25.7 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 9:44 PM EDT
                                Lola-984242

                                Newt was the person I was referring to in Post 25.3. Such a hypocritical bastard, cheating on your extremely sick hospitalized wife while trying to have the president impeached for getting a BJ. Unbelievable IMO! And yes I know the President lied under oath. But the way I look at, I'm sure there's going to be many out there that won't agree with me but, he should have never, ever been asked the question he lied about to begin with. Unless of course it was from Hillary behind closed doors (she could have slapped him upside the head as far as I'm concerned). It was absolutely no ones business, period.

                                • 3 votes
                                #25.8 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 10:25 PM EDT
                                Bob-725866

                                he should have never, ever been asked the question he lied about to begin with.

                                Agree. A gentleman would not have asked and if asked a gentleman would not have answered, even under oath.

                                  #25.9 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 11:29 PM EDT
                                  JB-1123320

                                  krounded

                                  That would be Newt Gingrich. Creepity ole creep. How do these people get past a mirror without barfing?

                                  And don't forget that Newt Gingrich asked his wife for a divorce while she was in the hospital recuperating from cancer surgery. Talk about a find upstanding conservative christian republican. Gingrich like Sanford and Ensign were all screwing around while demanding that Clinton be impeached for getting a BJ and lying about it. Ensign's defense, I didn't lie about my affair...I just had my parents pay the lady (no taxes, by the way). Sanford's defense...I saved the state of South Carolina a lot of money. How dare you get mad at me for using the states money to fly to Argentina to have sex with my soul-mate mistress. Let us not forget to add the maverick John McCain to the list. He's just as bad, if not worse, than the others.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #25.10 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 12:18 AM EDT
                                  Olivia-1008092

                                  There are no upstanding politicians, whatsoever. remember that. There's 545 of them and they are doinbg all they can to screw us.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #25.11 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 3:44 AM EDT
                                  MotorcycleEmptiness

                                  This is Sarkozy's former wife - the one he had before he married his mistress

                                  I remember well when people were talking during the election about how beautiful Michelle Obama was.

                                  Back in blighty, I kept thinking that, as pretty as she is, Sarkozy still wins in the MILF-tastic stakes with Bruni.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #25.12 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 10:37 AM EDT
                                  Reply
                                  Happyblue

                                  I don't see them as radicals at all. What I do see and hear is ignorance regarding marxism, socialism and communism. Sheep blindly following a wacko named Glenn Beck on a station that has been proven to tell half truths. It is truly amazing that anyone could think Beck investigative.

                                  What really scares Beck and others that agree with him is that the 'radicals' fight injustice against black people.

                                  • 5 votes
                                  Reply#26 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:21 PM EDT
                                  SBVORDeleted
                                  Sol-Badguy

                                  Wow, you cite two of your own articles as "undeniable proof" and "fact"? That'll get you an A on any research paper.

                                  • 8 votes
                                  #26.2 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:53 PM EDT
                                  krounded

                                  Rock on Sol!

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #26.3 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:57 PM EDT
                                  Happyblue

                                  This was nothing but a vendetta by Beck against Van Jones, the founder of the Color of Change. That Beck was able to intimidate the administration into not standing behind Jones is very scary indeed.

                                  You know who sent me the Color of Change petition against Beck? A retired first grade teacher. Better not send those kiddies to school, goodness knows what the first grade teachers are passing on to them in America's democracy.

                                  We should all be very afraid of a man who fights for justice, who has been open and honest about the worst America has to offer, who wants a 'green' revolution. I don't know, is Van Jones more scary than Glenn Beck? I don't think so.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #26.4 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 8:03 AM EDT
                                  Reply
                                  JERRY COLEMAN

                                  Dylan923

                                  I have reached the sorry conclusion that, with a few exceptions like Glenn Beck, honest, investigative reporting is dead.

                                  Glenn Beck is no more of an investigative journalist than a prostitute trying to be a nun. Glenn Beck is a COMMENTATOR, a personality. He reads what's given him, plain and simple.

                                  And he said that on the view, he said he dose not have to check facts because he is a commentator

                                  • 7 votes
                                  Reply#27 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:34 PM EDT
                                  mrmajestic12

                                  I would like Glen to do a spot on Coast to Coast with Art Bell or George Noorey. It would be great to hear him really cut loose on his conspiracies. Also if you watch Beck long enough, you notice when he has a "serious" guest on, he really reigns it in and he will actually sit quiet for a few minutes and listen. That has to be absolute torture for this guy.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #27.1 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:05 PM EDT
                                  Dylan923

                                  JERRY COLEMAN,

                                  Ummmmmmmm I did NOT say this:

                                  I have reached the sorry conclusion that, with a few exceptions like Glenn Beck, honest, investigative reporting is dead.

                                  I said this:

                                  Glenn Beck is no more of an investigative journalist than a prostitute trying to be a nun. Glenn Beck is a COMMENTATOR, a personality. He reads what's given him, plain and simple.

                                  You've got your quotation marks in the wrong place, because I'm the one who said Glenn Beck is a commentator, not an investigative journalist

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #27.2 - Mon Sep 7, 2009 8:47 AM EDT
                                  Reply
                                  JERRY COLEMAN

                                  Madison From NY

                                  I agree that Beck is a commentator, expresses sensationalist opinions and makes no apologies about it. But he also has been responsible for investigating and reporting important facts ignored by the mainstream media. It was the facts, not the sensationalism, that caused the resignation announced today.

                                  Madison when you read my first comment you may see why we the Americans people are losing at every turn.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#28 - Sun Sep 6, 2009 7:43 PM EDT
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